Cont: Brexit: Now What? Magic 8 Ball's up

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Wudang said:
You seem to be assuming that the poorest have average credit card debt. The poorest by defininition will be outliers on several money-related distributions. I would suspect a large proportion of credit card debt is down to people who had good credit and then were/saw themselves as temporarily in a financial squeeze - lost job, business performing poorly and used credit cards as a stop-gap that turned out to last longer than expected.
So far I'm failing to find a decent breakdown of stats.
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How is credit card debt even calculated? I mean i generally have a balance owing on my card of several hundreds but it is cleared at the end of every month. If you asked me today I probably have around £8k of 'credit card debt' but I don't pay any interest on it and it could be cleared tomorrow if needed.
 
Lothian said:
How many 18 year olds can afford to pay for a university degree? You would only have a couple of universities restricted to the rich if students are not to take on debt for the fees.
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0. They either get mom and dad to pay for it, the state pays for it or they go into debt.

Seriously how is an 18 year old supposed to earn enough to pay for college while going to college?
 
a_unique_person said:
Boris just realised he's been played for a fool.
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Who by?

Not the EU. The EU has always been pretty open about what Brexit means from their side. And it should haver been obvious to everybody, even the most rabid of Brexiteers that not being in the Single Market means that we can't have an open border with the Republic of Ireland.


I actually think Boris has been playing everybody else for a fool in order to achieve his ambition of becoming prime minister.
 
ponderingturtle said:
0. They either get mom and dad to pay for it, the state pays for it or they go into debt.

Seriously how is an 18 year old supposed to earn enough to pay for college while going to college?
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They should be investing their pocket money in hedge funds apparently. That's how JRM got rich you know.
 
jeremyp said:
Who by?

Not the EU. The EU has always been pretty open about what Brexit means from their side. And it should haver been obvious to everybody, even the most rabid of Brexiteers that not being in the Single Market means that we can't have an open border with the Republic of Ireland.


I actually think Boris has been playing everybody else for a fool in order to achieve his ambition of becoming prime minister.
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Boris does strike me as the kind of person who could very easily be taken advantage of by someone like Cummings.

For all his faults I think BoJo is someone who is self-absorbed, craves the adulation of being PM and no doubt thinks he is one of the gang with the real evil bastards but I don't think he really is.

To some extent with BoJo I think what you see is what you get bearing in mind pretty much everything he says is a lie but I think his motivations are fairly obvious and not necessarily all that nefarious.

There are others probably pulling his strings who see him as a useful idiot and someone who can take the rap for it if it all goes south
 
jeremyp said:
Who by?

Not the EU. The EU has always been pretty open about what Brexit means from their side. And it should haver been obvious to everybody, even the most rabid of Brexiteers that not being in the Single Market means that we can't have an open border with the Republic of Ireland.


I actually think Boris has been playing everybody else for a fool in order to achieve his ambition of becoming prime minister.
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Not by the EU. By Cummings and his cohorts. They know exactly what they are doing.
 
angrysoba said:
What do you mean?

They put forward the Irish Sea backstop but the UK government, under May, rejected it. Then they suggested the current backstop and May accepted it. They probably feel they have done their part. The problem is that the UK government couldn’t get it through parliament so May kept coming back asking if she could change it or get some reassurances. But the deal remained the same and the EU have given a number of extensions which would allow the UK tome to think of a better idea. What else are they required to do?
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I'm not even talking alternatives to the backstop. I'm even talking a better backstop or researching if a better one exists.

The waiting provided months of extra time. They could have assigned several people to use that time to try and find ways to make improvements. And I don't mean improvements to get it passed. I literally mean if the UK came to it's senses and would pass the first one, have them pass an improved one, instead.

It is 4.5 million EU citizens. I'm excited when I get extra time on a client project that I can make it better for the client. I can't imagine getting extra time and telling people you supposedly care about it is good enough.
 
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