The Trump Presidency: Sweet/Sweat 16

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dudalb said:
Bolton vs Trump.
THis is going to be fun.
Time to grab some popcorn.

What is fascinating about the Bolton resignation is he is a big favorite among a lot of the right. The right/Trumo coalition might be showing a crack.
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I'd be surprised if even one in ten republicans even know who he is.
A majority probably judge people like him based on what Trump thinks about them now.
 
kellyb said:
I'd be surprised if even one in ten republicans even know who he is.
A majority probably judge people like him based on what Trump thinks about them now.
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In no way defending Trump here. But Bolton has a long record of wanting to blow up everything he sees, including North Korea and Iran. There were deep worries about what would happen when he became national security advisor. We're better off with him out.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jimmy-carter-trump-john-bolton-national-security-adviser-worst-mistake/
https://thehill.com/policy/national...n-would-be-a-bad-choice-for-national-security
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-rothkopf-bolton-20180323-story.html
 
There is one specific reason to be glad that the president is incapable of learning new things.
I’m pretty sure he would have gone to Poland if he learned that people who offend a foreign head of state on Polish soil can get up to 3 years. That’s the same penalty that’s given to people who insult or offend the Polish head of state.

He’d want to copy that law and he could probably get a fair number of his supporters to back it too.
 
JoeMorgue said:
I'm being perfectly serious. We've got almost two years of more gerrymandering, more voter suppression plans being put in place, maybe another SCOTUS judge or two.

Again I'm not getting what magical factor people think is going to make 2020 a harder battle for the GOP then 2016.
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Huh? Two very different claims! Gerrymandering can’t affect the Senate, nor is voter suppression likely to have a big enough impact to give the GOP a two thirds majority when only a third is voted for in the election anyway.

Also, the House is majority Democrat now. You expect some shenanigans to give the GOP the kind of massive landslide that they haven’t seen since ever? That requires you invoking magic not me.
 
I don’t think this has been mentioned

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/trump-pence-noaa-tweets-hurricane-taliban.amp#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1

Up until Monday, all of Vice President Pence’s tweets were written in complete sentences with no spelling, grammar, or capitalization errors. Then, in response to a tweet from the president
President Trump’s Twitter account said:
lot of Fake News is being reported that I overruled the VP and various advisers on a potential Camp David meeting with the Taliban. This Story is False! I always think it is good to meet and talk, but in this case I decided not to. The Dishonest Media likes to create...
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the vice president sent out this one
VP Pence’s Twitter account said:
That’s Absolutely Right Mr. President. More Fake News! The Dishonest Media never contacted our office before running with this story and if they had, we would have told them I FULLY support your decision
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I am a bit frightened by how bad it is going to get in the next 12 months.

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Ladewig said:
I don’t think this has been mentioned

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/09/trump-pence-noaa-tweets-hurricane-taliban.amp#referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251$s?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1

Up until Monday, all of Vice President Pence’s tweets were written in complete sentences with no spelling, grammar, or capitalization errors. Then, in response to a tweet from the president



the vice president sent out this one



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I am a bit frightened by how bad it is going to get in the next 12 months.

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Did Trump type both of them? Or are they both employing the same secretary?
 
dudalb said:
Which might have been a mistake.
I am not a fan of "Peace At Any Price".
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Nobody can explain why it's such a big deal and totally not acceptable if Russia gets to keep its one dinky little client state in the ME.
 
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Bob001 said:
In no way defending Trump here. But Bolton has a long record of wanting to blow up everything he sees, including North Korea and Iran. There were deep worries about what would happen when he became national security advisor. We're better off with him out.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jimmy-carter-trump-john-bolton-national-security-adviser-worst-mistake/
https://thehill.com/policy/national...n-would-be-a-bad-choice-for-national-security
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-rothkopf-bolton-20180323-story.html
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No argument from me that the guy is awful, or that people like the Bush family certainly love him.

I was only challenging the notion that the average Republican pays attention to this stuff, or will care that "some guy named John Bolton who Trump fired" might be talking smack about Trump.
 
dudalb said:
If one more person talks about Gerrymandering in reference to the Senate, I am going to scream.
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I think you're discounting the complexity of the issue. Gerrymandering is a voter suppression tactic, and heavily-gerrymandered districts are also going to have other voter suppression measures in place that will impact even a popular-vote race; for instance it's common for polling locations in gerrymandered districts to be deliberately few and far between, and so inefficiently operated that citizens who are unable or unwilling to spend hours or even the entire day in line will simply be deprived of their opportunity to vote, with no remedy or recourse.
 
kellyb said:
I still think he probably takes both uppers and downers.
Adderall and Xanax, at different times. Something like that.
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As a leader you have an ethical, legal, and moral responsibility to your people
not to have Trump ruin their lives through war or tariffs or, well, anything he
does really. And so, you need to keep him under control, but do so in a quiet
manor. You put lithium salt on his fries, mix a little methadone in his coke.
Perhaps - the two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles,
onions on a sesame seed bun - contains a little clozapine in the special sauce.

I estimate three, or four, or even five nations have been independently and
secretly treating him since he got into office. They cannot co-ordinate with
so they constantly vary the dose which makes him seem a little uneven.
Otherwise, I have a hard time explaining how he speaks with a lithium stupor.
 
angrysoba said:
Did Trump type both of them? Or are they both employing the same secretary?
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I can see a new position in the Trump admin.: Tweet Adviser to the President.
Duties would include being available to tweet for Trump when he is asleep or on the golf course and searching Trump positive tweets to re-tweet.
 
Solitaire said:
As a leader you have an ethical, legal, and moral responsibility to your people
not to have Trump ruin their lives through war or tariffs or, well, anything he
does really. And so, you need to keep him under control, but do so in a quiet
manor. You put lithium salt on his fries, mix a little methadone in his coke.
Perhaps - the two all-beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles,
onions on a sesame seed bun - contains a little clozapine in the special sauce.

I estimate three, or four, or even five nations have been independently and
secretly treating him since he got into office. They cannot co-ordinate with
so they constantly vary the dose which makes him seem a little uneven.
Otherwise, I have a hard time explaining how he speaks with a lithium stupor.
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I suggest some anti-freeze in his coke.

ETA: Should I be expecting the Secret Service at my door now?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Or Trump fired him after he resigned. :p

It could be either one.

I hope his leaving is a signal we are less likely to invade Iran. Makes me wonder if Trump isn't blaming him for Iran upping the uranium refinement game.
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I'm going to go, one chance in fifty that Trump's version of the events is accurate, forty-nine that Bolton indicated a wish to resign first and Trump immediately got on Twitter to claim it was his idea.

kellyb said:
I'd be surprised if even one in ten republicans even know who he is.
A majority probably judge people like him based on what Trump thinks about them now.
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Agreed. Bolton isn't a politician, his work has always been back-room.
 
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