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Nessie said:
None of our family cars, nor the motorbike have such a numberplate. Most of the UK registered cars I saw in ROI did not. None of the cars/bikes I have taken to the ROI have had such a number plate.

I think this is another non issue.
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Judging from the "Sam's Hot Car Lot" that is the street outside my house, about 75% of plates have the EU flag/country code on them.
 
I'm retired and have all the time in the world to cook, but I still have 2 or 3 ready meals every week. Cottage pie, fish pie, mushroom risotto etc. I neither know nor care to learn how to make such dishes myself. Why should I, when I can buy them? Same reason I never bother to bake.
 
Ethan Thane Athen said:
This. Especially the working hours but with both parents working they just don’t want to have to think about cooking when they get in tired and stressed. Just whack each persons meal in the microwave - no need to plan or think.
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The UK also has the longest average commuting time in the EU on top of the longest working hours.
 
Pixel42 said:
Why should I, when I can buy them?
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If you have sufficient time and money (which many don't) there are a couple of good reasons:

1. Because you enjoy it (this is a major factor for me, but not for some)
2. Because, with enough practice, home-made tastes better.
 
Scottish court rejects MP's bid to rule prorogation illegal. Swinson and co plan to appeal.

A Scottish judge has rejected a bid to have Boris Johnson's plan to shut down parliament ahead of Brexit declared illegal.

The case was brought to the Court of Session in Edinburgh by a cross-party group of 75 parliamentarians, who argued the PM had exceeded his powers.

But Lord Doherty ruled on Wednesday that the issue was for politicians and voters to judge, and not the courts.

He said there had been no contravention of the law by the UK government.

The group of MPs and peers behind the legal challenge, who are headed by SNP MP Joanna Cherry and Liberal Democrat leader Jo Swinson, have said they will appeal against the ruling.

Their legal team will return to the court on Wednesday afternoon to ask the Inner House to hear the appeal, potentially on Thursday.
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49568760
 
Pixel42 said:
I'm retired and have all the time in the world to cook, but I still have 2 or 3 ready meals every week. Cottage pie, fish pie, mushroom risotto etc. I neither know nor care to learn how to make such dishes myself. Why should I, when I can buy them? Same reason I never bother to bake.
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That's also part of the reason I have them. If I cook myself it tends to be spag bol, meat and 2 veg or a roast something whereas if I want a chinese meal more complex than stirfry noodles, a curry, or something Thai or whatever I will tend towards a ready meal.
 
Interrupting cookery corner for a moment (and despite the implied sarcasm, I'm enjoying the diversion) how about that slouching Rees Mogg?

Is it too Machiavellian of me to think that he might have been camera bait to stop today's media publishing their most-flustered and least-leaderly pic of Boris to illustrate his losing control (as he and everyone else expected)?
 
Jack by the hedge said:
Interrupting cookery corner for a moment (and despite the implied sarcasm, I'm enjoying the diversion) how about that slouching Rees Mogg?

Is it too Machiavellian of me to think that he might have been camera bait to stop today's media publishing their most-flustered and least-leaderly pic of Boris to illustrate his losing control (as he and everyone else expected)?
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I think he normally sits like that.... I have seen him doing it before in the back corner. I think this is the first time he has been front and centre of the house and his contempt for everyone else was made clear.
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
I think he normally sits like that.... I have seen him doing it before in the back corner. I think this is the first time he has been front and centre of the house and his contempt for everyone else was made clear.
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Might be nothing to it then. But with Dominic Cummings in the role of Malcolm Tucker I've come to presume everything any of them do now is media-managed.
 
Can someone not familiar with parliamentary government explain to an American what the hell is going on over in the UK?

What is prorogation, how does it normally occur, and why is this time different?

What does it mean now that Boris has lost his majority? Can the new majority change the course of Brexit? Can they force Boris out as PM?

Any effort expended to explain this to me will be very much appreciated!
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Can someone not familiar with parliamentary government explain to an American what the hell is going on over in the UK?

What is prorogation, how does it normally occur, and why is this time different?
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Prorogation is usually an administrative exercise lasting a few days between the end of one parliamentary session and the start of another. Typically all business will be complete before prorogation.

This is different because it is longer than any prorogation in recent memory and because it appears to have been done for political purposes, to reduce the amount of time MPs have to try and prevent a no-deal Brexit.

SuburbanTurkey said:
What does it mean now that Boris has lost his majority? Can the new majority change the course of Brexit? Can they force Boris out as PM?

Any effort expended to explain this to me will be very much appreciated!
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They could force a vote of no confidence in the government. If this is successful then they have 14 days to form a new government with a new PM. The new PM should be identified ahead of time. If unsuccessful then there would be a general election.

The problem is that no-one outside the Labour Party (and many within IMO) wants to see the Labour leader as Prime Minister and the Labour Party won't allow anyone else so there's no chance of a "Government of National Unity" to guide us past a no-deal Brexit.

An election would be bad because Boris Johnson could simple schedule it on or after the Brexit deadline and in the meantime Parliament would have been disbanded.
 
SuburbanTurkey said:
Can someone not familiar with parliamentary government explain to an American what the hell is going on over in the UK?

What is prorogation, how does it normally occur, and why is this time different?

What does it mean now that Boris has lost his majority? Can the new majority change the course of Brexit? Can they force Boris out as PM?

Any effort expended to explain this to me will be very much appreciated!
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Good explanation - and it even has a graph: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-parliament-prorogation-explained
 
Nessie said:
Scotland is further north than most of Denmark, if being north is one of the qualifiers.

Do you count any Baltic States as Scandinavian? Latvia, which is the same latitude as Scotland likes to think of itself as in the club (according to a book I read when visiting last year).
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Scandinavia is traditionally limited to Sweden, Norway and Denmark. The territory that would eventually become Finland ceased to be a part of Sweden at the beginning of the 19th century, hence its traditionally not counted as a part of Scandinavia. The Baltic countries have never been considered as a part of Scandinavia, just like Swedish PomeraniaWP
never was.

Nordic is the term that's used to describe the countries that have been subject to very long periods of control and cultural influence of the Scandinavian countries. Even here Latvia, or even Estonia, are not traditionally considered a part of the Nordic countries in large part because these countries did not experience the same kind of continuing influence that the other Nordic countries have.

Finland, for example, was an integral part of the Swedish Realm. A very concrete example of this legacy is reflected in how Finnish law is very similar to Swedish law, even after it has been a part of the Russian Empire for roughly a century. By contrast, the Baltic's have legal systems largely derived from the one developed in German Empire at the end of the 19th century (and to a lesser degree, the Napoleonic code).
 
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Darat said:
Good explanation - and it even has a graph: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-parliament-prorogation-explained
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Then I have a follow up question.

What is a session of parliament?

reading the explanation of the link suggests it is something else then going over the summer recess, as that is controlled by parliament, while prorogation is not.

I can imagine parliament to take it a bit easy with working between an election and the start of the new MP's.

But that happens only every 5 years(ish). Not each year on top of the recess.
 
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