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The Trump Presidency: Sweet/Sweat 16

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varwoche said:
So true. As obvious as it was during the election that this world class ignoramus was vastly under-qualified in several respects, his performance in office has been far worse than most of us imagined.
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But he was an outsider who wasn't part of the political establishment. He was going to bring new methods and a new perspective to the running of the government.
Wait, wasn't it regularly claimed that President Obama didn't have enough political experience to be a good President?
 
The “chosen one” label, being symbolic and grand, doesn’t strike as something Trump would come up with on his own. It strikes more as something he picked up while drinking in the praises of Franklin Graham or some other one of his religious fluffers.
 
Armitage72 said:
But he was an outsider who wasn't part of the political establishment. He was going to bring new methods and a new perspective to the running of the government.
Wait, wasn't it regularly claimed that President Obama didn't have enough political experience to be a good President?
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Yeah - but Trump was a very successful business man who delivered the goods.... well as long as you ignore the fact as he was campaigning to become President he was being sued for not delivering the goods. (Never mind his bankruptcies, him having to live on an allowance his creditors let him have and so.)

But hey he had a hit TV show a few years back, if that doesn't qualify him what on earth would?
 
Trump Tweets

Germany sells 30 year bonds offering negative yields. Germany competes with the USA. Our Federal Reserve does not allow us to do what we must do. They put us at a disadvantage against our competition. Strong Dollar, No Inflation! They move like quicksand. Fight or go home!
 
I can't find a transcript yet, but I believe in the chopper talk yesterday Trump said something along the lines of "when Biden is in charge next year...", which struck me as truly odd. Or maybe a Freudian slip? Does he really know his number is up?
 
Captain_Swoop said:
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Germany sells 30 year bonds offering negative yields. Germany competes with the USA. Our Federal Reserve does not allow us to do what we must do. They put us at a disadvantage against our competition. Strong Dollar, No Inflation! They move like quicksand. Fight or go home!
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IOW, please juice the economy quickly in case it slips back into recession before the election - and damn the consequences.
 
It's no madder than other things he's said, but is Trump even aware of the contradiction in simultaneously claiming we have the best economy and strongest dollar ever AND we're in a financial crisis that requires immediate action like cutting interest rates and dropping taxes?
 
varwoche said:
So true. As obvious as it was during the election that this world class ignoramus was vastly under-qualified in several respects, his performance in office has been far worse than most of us imagined.
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Yeah... [url="https://www.deseret.com/2016/4/22/20490465/trump-i-m-going-to-be-so-presidential-that-you-people-will-be-so-bored]remember those days[/url] when we heard things from people like:
Trump - At some point, I'm going to be so presidential that you people will be so bored.
Manafort - You'll start to see more depth of the person, the real person. You'll see a real different guy.
Carson - He's trying to moderate. He's getting better.

No, no and no. In retrospect, it seems to me that it was the most wishful of thinking on the part of people in trump's orbit that he would shift closer to the mould of an actual statesman. For trump's part, it was always evident to him that rabble-rousing was what worked, and since winning the election he's maintained that mode, imo, partly for the constant adoration and partly in attempt not to lose momentum. He has given indication that he believes what he does has worked before and will work again, so he cannot let that go.

I think it's too much. I think he's lost some of the people who had voted for him in 2016 because it's just too much. This never-ending stream of drama and bizarre behaviour has to effect reasonable conservative voters.
 
TragicMonkey said:
It's no madder than other things he's said, but is Trump even aware of the contradiction in simultaneously claiming we have the best economy and strongest dollar ever AND we're in a financial crisis that requires immediate action like cutting interest rates and dropping taxes?
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I don't think that any of his supporters or the GOP faithful will try to join the dots. After all US economic growth at 2%-3% is far outstripping Chinese growth which is a miserable 6%.
 
TofuFighter said:
In retrospect, it seems to me that it was the most wishful of thinking on the part of people in trump's orbit that he would shift closer to the mould of an actual statesman.
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I'm misquoting here, but there is a saying about relationships. Men choose women hoping that they will never change, and women choose men hoping to change them. If a man tells you that they are going to change their behavior on X date, you can take it to the bank that this will not happen.
 
I'll admit that waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in between the primaries and general election back in 2016 that was sort of my vague idea; that the GOP had just let Trump be Trump in the primaries to lock in his core cult of personality base and was then going to groom / reel him in to fit the mold of more generic Republican.

I... might has misread the terrain on that one to put it lightly.
 
President Trump decided long ago that it would be smart politics for him to yoke his administration to Israel and to try to brand the Democratic Party as anti-Semitic.

He set about executing a pro-Israel checklist: moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem, recognizing the Golan Heights as part of sovereign Israel, and taking a hard line against Iran. And he promoted himself as the greatest president — a deity even — for Jewish people.

Yet Trump has become flummoxed that Jewish Americans are not in turn lining up to support his reelection, according to people familiar with his thinking, and he has lashed out in predictable fashion.

“If you vote for a Democrat, you’re very, very disloyal to Israel and to the Jewish people,” Trump said Wednesday on the South Lawn of the White House. He was amplifying a statement he made in the Oval Office a day earlier: “I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat, I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty.”

Trump’s use of the word “disloyalty” drew immediate criticism from Jewish groups, whose leaders said it echoed anti-Semitic tropes about where American Jews’ loyalty lies. The president insisted his comments were not anti-Semitic.

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Asked about the “loyalty” charge Wednesday, Trump said: “I have been responsible for a lot of great things for Israel,” mentioning the relocation of the US embassy to Jerusalem and his opposition to Iran.

“I will tell you this, in my opinion, the Democrats have gone very far away from Israel,” Trump continued. “In my opinion, if you vote for a Democrat you’re being very disloyal to Jewish people, and you’re being very disloyal to Israel. And only weak people would say anything other than that.”

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Trump ignored a shouted question about whether Jews in the United States have a right to be simply American – but Trump denied he was employing an antisemitic trope.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...557d10-c428-11e9-b72f-b31dfaa77212_story.html

Good Americans should support him because he's supporting Israel. All good Jews, and Americans for that matter, only want to do everything for Israel no matter the costs. Also, American Jews are Jews first and foremost and that's why they owe loyalty towards Israel above all else.

That's pretty much what you get from Trumps line of reasoning.
 
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