In the future there will be no religion!

[acbytesla]

More successful prosecution of religious wars.

Light sabres for beheadings of adulterers and blasphemers!

 

[gerdbonk]

Without religion, science can be used by human evil!

You mean like religious nutcases murdering people with the latest and greatest firearms?

 

[alfaniner]

Imagine.

 

[abaddon]

Without religion, science can be used by human evil!

Religion is already actively evil all on it's own.

 

[Myriad]

Religion must unite with science.

Which religion must unite with science?

 

[Ricardo]

Which religion must unite with science?

Christianity

 

[Ricardo]

the doctrine of Jesus Christ

 

[gerdbonk]

Why choose that one? Why not Buddhism or Tenrikyo?

 

[acbytesla]

the doctrine of Jesus Christ

As far as I know, Jesus Christ didn't have a doctrine. He authored nothing. What you're really talking about is the doctrine of Paul. Someone who didn't and couldn't have a clue what Jesus thought or wanted. And ANONYMOUS individuals who wrote the gospels a half a century after Jesus lived if he lived at all.

You should also keep in mind that Jesus told people to obey the law. He supposedly told people to abandon their families and follow him. He also said give everything to the poor. And take no thought for the morrow. Do you think that is a good idea?

 

[Myriad]

the doctrine of Jesus Christ

Okay. Which parts of the doctrine of Jesus Christ should change to be more united with science or with the knowledge gained from science?

 

[The Atheist]

will science kill religion?

Sure!

I recall fondly the confidence with which I announced to my mates in Form 5 at school (11th Grade for Americans) that religion would be dead and gone by the year 2000, then still over a quarter of a century away. How did that turn out?

Science, nor anything else, will ever kill religion.

People wants to believe.

 

[Ricardo]

As far as I know, Jesus Christ didn't have a doctrine. He authored nothing. What you're really talking about is the doctrine of Paul. Someone who didn't and couldn't have a clue what Jesus thought or wanted. And ANONYMOUS individuals who wrote the gospels a half a century after Jesus lived if he lived at all.

You should also keep in mind that Jesus told people to obey the law. He supposedly told people to abandon their families and follow him. He also said give everything to the poor. And take no thought for the morrow. Do you think that is a good idea?

You can't interpret the gospels to the letter! have to interpret figuratively!

Loving others is a good idea!

 

[acbytesla]

You can't interpret the gospels to the letter! have to interpret figuratively!

Loving others is a good idea!

Then what parts do you take literally and how can you tell one from the other? I'm good with loving others. But I am not interested in ******* preachers telling me how to live my life. I also have a huge problem with the homophobia, sexism and racism in the bible.

But this was a discussion about uniting science which is based on methodological naturalism and your religion which I'm afraid is based on superstitious cow manure. I don't believe in gods (except maybe Thor in the latest Marvel movie) or talking donkeys, snakes or other absurdities. So how do you reconcile the two?

 

[fromdownunder]

You can't interpret the gospels to the letter! have to interpret figuratively!

Loving others is a good idea!

So, was the crucifixion literate or figurative? And what is your evidence for it if you claim it was literate?


Norm

 

[sphenisc]

So, was the crucifixion literate or figurative? And what is your evidence for it if you claim it was literate?


Norm

It was definitely illiterate. That's why they had to use a big cross.

 

[Minoosh]

Can't see how it would be anything else.

Really? Do you think wars are never fought for secular reasons?

Also, how did you rule out the danger from plagues, pestilence, famines, environmental catastrophe, meteor strikes etc.?

 

[smartcooky]

if religion has to unite with science! a fusion between religion and science!

Religion is a magic oriented, faith-based fantasy.

Science is a fact oriented, evidence-based discipline.

The two have nothing in common - science has absolutely nothing to gain by joining with religion.

 

[smartcooky]

It was definitely illiterate. That's why they had to use a big cross.

 

[Minoosh]

You should also keep in mind that Jesus told people to obey the law. He supposedly told people to abandon their families and follow him. He also said give everything to the poor. And take no thought for the morrow. Do you think that is a good idea?

He was a hard guy to nail down.

 

[Minoosh]

It was definitely illiterate. That's why they had to use a big cross.

I second smartcooky's applause.