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Epstein suicide conspiracy theories

I was going to start a thread here the day they arrested him because I thought it would make a great real-time CT-in-the-Making subject. The case is a Rorschach test with the chosen conspirator(s) being solely based on a particular political viewpoint. I figured he'd at least try to hang himself because he was looking at hard time for once in his life, and he did.

The fact is that Epstein knew a lot of people and his money attracted politicians like the steaming pile of horse manure that he was. The question of how many of these politicians indulged in under aged flesh has yet to be completely answered but at this point there is a lot of guilt by association (sort of like that photo of Nancy Reagan with serial killer John Wayne Gacy).

Real crimes were committed and there are many victims left to come forward.
 
I want a conspiracy here! Otherwise it's just boring ;)

I read that he hung himself from a bunk bed with a bed sheet. I thought that hanging yourself in jail from doorknobs and such only happened on TV (The Wire). You gotta really wanna die if you go that route.

You have current and ex-Presidents in the middle of it, a governor, senator and who knows what else. The timing. This is some very good conspiracy material and it kinda smells.
 
mgidm86 said:
I want a conspiracy here! Otherwise it's just boring ;)

I read that he hung himself from a bunk bed with a bed sheet. I thought that hanging yourself in jail from doorknobs and such only happened on TV (The Wire). You gotta really wanna die if you go that route.

You have current and ex-Presidents in the middle of it, a governor, senator and who knows what else. The timing. This is some very good conspiracy material and it kinda smells.
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Who asks shall get an answer. Here is David Icke, who has called out these networks since the nineties, with a just published good hour of his take on the "Epstein case" in which I hope (I'm 15 minutes in) that he won't mention that the Queen is a reptile and the moon artificial. Enjoy:

 
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Again I ask.

So Epstein was gonna blab about Hillary's Child Sex Pizza Dungeon or Trump's secret sex tape with Ivanka or the Illuminati or the Lizard Overlords or the Lincoln Slave Coliseum ("He didn't free them all") or the secret toothpaste that 10 out of 10 dentists recommends or whatever.

Why did he live to make it to jail? He's been on his own and out of the news for over 10 years. Why not just arraign an "accident" during that period?
 
JoeMorgue said:
Again I ask.

So Epstein was gonna blab about Hillary's Child Sex Pizza Dungeon or Trump's secret sex tape with Ivanka or the Illuminati or the Lizard Overlords or the Lincoln Slave Coliseum ("He didn't free them all") or the secret toothpaste that 10 out of 10 dentists recommends or whatever.

Why did he live to make it to jail? He's been on his own and out of the news for over 10 years. Why not just arraign an "accident" during that period?
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I suppose he wouldn't have been planning to blab about whatever it was until he needed to as a bargaining chip to try to somehow lessen his own sentence, since it's likely any info he had to implicate someone else would show crimes he committed as well.

He wouldn't have been perceived as a clear danger before because he would not have had an incentive to blab.
 
If Epstein is gone, who has the keys to the bunker under the Getty Museum where all of the kids are being held? Hopefully someone has been checking on them regularly.
 
JoeMorgue said:
So Epstein was gonna blab about Hillary's Child Sex Pizza Dungeon or Trump's secret sex tape with Ivanka or the Illuminati or the Lizard Overlords or the Lincoln Slave Coliseum ("He didn't free them all") or the secret toothpaste that 10 out of 10 dentists recommends or whatever.
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All of the above.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Again I ask.

So Epstein was gonna blab about Hillary's Child Sex Pizza Dungeon or Trump's secret sex tape with Ivanka or the Illuminati or the Lizard Overlords or the Lincoln Slave Coliseum ("He didn't free them all") or the secret toothpaste that 10 out of 10 dentists recommends or whatever.

Why did he live to make it to jail? He's been on his own and out of the news for over 10 years. Why not just arraign an "accident" during that period?
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Yeah, why make it look suspicious? Poison him, pay or/and scare off the coroner to call it a heart attack, and nobody even knows he was murdered.
 
Committing suicide in jail is so easy it'd be a miracle if he didn't pull it off.

These conspiracy theorists never cared about inmate security until they heard of Epstein. "Hold on, who gave him the bedsheets?" "Where did he get shoelaces?!" "why is his neck broken!"
 
Even if security cameras had recorded the entire event (naturally while the guy supposed to manning the CCTV station is sleeping on the job) you'd no doubt have countless armchair executioner's and hanging experts complaining that it was staged and obviously false.
 
Great thread. I hope now you can all see that anyone is susceptible to conspiracy theories.
Ya, nut bags. j/k
 
Jimmy9 said:
Great thread. I hope now you can all see that anyone is susceptible to conspiracy theories.
Ya, nut bags. j/k
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Just to dip my beak in, I don't doubt at all that lazy-ass prison guards missed noticing that Epstein was hanging himself.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, but IMO no conspiracy.
 
Oh, and sidenote... his main co-conspirator was MIA for a while, but discovered by the press:
https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/jeffr...n-out-burger-in-first-photos-since-his-death/
The Post found the socialite hiding in plain sight in the least likely place imaginable — a fast-food joint in Los Angeles.

Maxwell, 57, the alleged madam to the multimillionaire pedophile, was scarfing down a burger, fries and shake al fresco at an In-N-Out Burger on Monday while reading “The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives,” a nonfiction best-seller by journalist Ted Gup.

Sitting alone with a pet pooch, she was surprised to have been found and told an onlooker, “Well, I guess this is the last time I’ll be eating here!”
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Interesting book choice, considering:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeffr...layed-out-for-years-in-plain-sight?ref=scroll
Epstein’s name, I was told, had been raised by the Trump transition team when Alexander Acosta, the former U.S. attorney in Miami who’d infamously cut Epstein a non-prosecution plea deal back in 2007, was being interviewed for the job of labor secretary. The plea deal put a hard stop to a separate federal investigation of alleged sex crimes with minors and trafficking.

“Is the Epstein case going to cause a problem [for confirmation hearings]?” Acosta had been asked. Acosta had explained, breezily, apparently, that back in the day he’d had just one meeting on the Epstein case. He’d cut the non-prosecution deal with one of Epstein’s attorneys because he had “been told” to back off, that Epstein was above his pay grade. “I was told Epstein ‘belonged to intelligence’ and to leave it alone,” he told his interviewers in the Trump transition, who evidently thought that was a sufficient answer and went ahead and hired Acosta. (The Labor Department had no comment when asked about this.)
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timhau said:
What sort of experience do you have with the physiology of hanging?
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Talking to an MD friend about it last night, mostly. She says either the report that multiple bones were broken was wrong, or he must have been murdered. :con2:
 
Venom said:
Why not?
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There's this:
https://www.researchgate.net/profil...ing-mechanisms-of-injury-An-autopsy-study.pdf
Most hangings are suicidal. Typically, the rope is
attached to a high point, such as ceiling beam or staircase,
and the person attempting the suicide stands on a chair or
other support while they position the band around their
neck. Jumping off the support, or kicking it away, results in
their suspension [1]. These are usually ‘‘short-drops,’’
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Cervical spine fractures and spinal cord injuries are
uncommon in suicidal short-drop hangings, though victims
usually suffer a wide range of soft tissue injuries [8–13].
Cervical spine injuries, especially at C1 and C2, are typical
of hangings from a greater height, at least 2.7 m [14].
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Cervical spine injury associated with short-drop hanging
has been reported to be infrequent to non-existent [8, 12,
19, 20]. Our findings were similar to previous reports, and
cervical spine injuries were identified in only 3.3 % of
short-drop hangings
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So, broken neck bones are exceedingly rare even when there's a drop from something like a chair.
That sort of injury from just kneeling and letting the pressure just reduce blood flow to the head looks to be...completely implausible.
 
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