AOC offended Team Mitch gets gropey

theprestige said:
Okay. Let's have a conversation about AOC's radical solutions. Pick one. Start a new thread if you like. I'll even try really hard not to be evil.
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No thanks. Body of Work and all that. You can go start a thread if you want, but there's already one; one in which you've demonstrated the singular inability to have a serious conversation on the topic. the Green New Deal thread.
 
Foolmewunz said:
No thanks. Body of Work and all that. You can go start a thread if you want, but there's already one; one in which you've demonstrated the singular inability to have a serious conversation on the topic. the Green New Deal thread.
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That's a completely unfair standard. It's not possible to have a serious conversation about the GND, because the GND is itself a joke. Sure, you can pretend to be serious about it, but who are you kidding?
 
Ziggurat said:
That's a completely unfair standard. It's not possible to have a serious conversation about the GND, because the GND is itself a joke. Sure, you can pretend to be serious about it, but who are you kidding?
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This is a variation on theprestige's excuse for why he doesn't participate in good faith in ANY threads. "Everything y'all say is wrong and I would give it credibility by discussing it."

Thank you for proving my point.
 
Belz... said:
You know what I find strange? It's how common it is for posters to suddenly forget how humans act.
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Is it as strange as not remembering that people act differently?

This is obviously normal, rational behavior to people like you and Dudalb, and a few others. It's not to me, and I hope it never is.

Saying, "Oh those wacky teens" is lame to me. I have teenage boys, 2 of them. I can't imagine either one of them doing this but for ***** and giggles I'll ask them tonight. I'd like to think they're above that.
 
Belz... said:
You know what I find strange? It's how common it is for posters to suddenly forget how humans act.
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I've said it before. The internet is in real danger of creating the anti-social, total (often with pride) inability to interact with other people, shut in that people used to think actually existed.
 
Belz... said:
What if they were wearing Iron Maiden t-shirts?
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The photo would still show, at the least, that these kids were raised in a misogynistic society, so the photo would still deserve a severe reprimand. "Kids will be kids" doesn't excuse the fact that attitudes like misogyny and racism are learned behaviors. I wouldn't want to see their lives ruined because of it, of course, but I think they need to come away knowing that this sort of behavior is unacceptable.

But then, they weren't wearing Iron Maiden t-shirts. The photo was explicitly intended to make a political statement about how much they disrespect one of McConnell's political opponents. And that is yet another example of how today's GOP is fueled by appealing to the worst of human nature.
 
WilliamSeger said:
The photo would still show, at the least, that these kids were raised in a misogynistic society, so the photo would still deserve a severe reprimand. "Kids will be kids" doesn't excuse the fact that attitudes like misogyny and racism are learned behaviors. I wouldn't want to see their lives ruined because of it, of course, but I think they need to come away knowing that this sort of behavior is unacceptable.

But then, they weren't wearing Iron Maiden t-shirts. The photo was explicitly intended to make a political statement about how much they disrespect one of McConnell's political opponents. And that is yet another example of how today's GOP is fueled by appealing to the worst of human nature.
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Yeah, they were all wearing Mitch t-shirts and it was at a church picnic fundraiser. This is really how y'all acted at church picnics when you were young?

Trump's grab them by the pussy was excused because it was "locker room talk." Now it's ok for "locker room talk" at a church picnic?
 
plague311 said:
Is it as strange as not remembering that people act differently?

This is obviously normal, rational behavior to people like you and Dudalb, and a few others. It's not to me, and I hope it never is.
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Why? Is that behaviour that horrifying to you? They're fooling around with a cardboard cutout.

Seriously it's innocuous.
 
pgwenthold said:
Yeah, they were all wearing Mitch t-shirts and it was at a church picnic fundraiser. This is really how y'all acted at church picnics when you were young?

Trump's grab them by the pussy was excused because it was "locker room talk." Now it's ok for "locker room talk" at a church picnic?
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Couldn't say. In my day, churches didn't violate the principle of separation by hosting blatantly political rallies.

:D
 
pgwenthold said:
Yeah, they were all wearing Mitch t-shirts and it was at a church picnic fundraiser. This is really how y'all acted at church picnics when you were young?

Trump's grab them by the pussy was excused because it was "locker room talk." Now it's ok for "locker room talk" at a church picnic?
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If that's the objection, Isn't that a matter for their parents, the church, and other picnic-goers? Why does anyone else need to be involved?
 
Belz... said:
Why? Is that behaviour that horrifying to you? They're fooling around with a cardboard cutout.

Seriously it's innocuous.
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Yeah, for some reason, males tend to think that misogyny is innocuous. You might as have well said, "Seriously, that's someone else's problem."
 
Ziggurat said:
If that's the objection, Isn't that a matter for their parents, the church, and other picnic-goers? Why does anyone else need to be involved?
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Don't start none, won't be none. Don't want public attention? Don't publish photos of yourself doing dumb things on a global communications network.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Yeah, for some reason, males tend to think that misogyny is innocuous. You might as have well said, "Seriously, that's someone else's problem."
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It's no one's problem. It was a cardboard cutout.

What you posted above is nothing but a platitude. It's not an argument. If a woman pretends to grobe or french kiss a picture of Brad Pitt, is she being misandrist?

And I don't appreciate your accusation. Maybe you need to take a break.
 
Ziggurat said:
If that's the objection, Isn't that a matter for their parents, the church, and other picnic-goers? Why does anyone else need to be involved?
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Like I said about wearing a MAGA hat, you shouldn't be making political statements unless you're willing to own the political consequences, and these kids are surely old enough to understand that. These kids make the GOP look bad because the GOP is bad, and the proof is how McConnell handled it -- or rather, didn't.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Don't start none, won't be none. Don't want public attention? Don't publish photos of yourself doing dumb things on a global communications network.
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If they started something, that indicates that the problem isn't what pgwenthold suggested. And while I agree with your post in terms of advice for future action, it's not a relevant guide for what the appropriate response to such behavior is once it has happened.
 
WilliamSeger said:
Like I said about wearing a MAGA hat, you shouldn't be making political statements unless you're willing to own the political consequences,
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That's not really the question we face. The question we face is, what should those consequences be? You seem to simply be accepting all these bad consequences without question. That is... unwise.
 
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