Mueller Investigation pt 6

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theprestige said:
Meh.

I'm agnostic about the evidence in this particular case. I'm content to let the question play out however it plays out.

My post was more about the principle of not knee jerk rejecting social media history simply because it's social media history. I'm glad some people put in the effort to actually argue that it's weak evidence (or not evidence at all) in this specific case. Social media history as evidence should be taken on a case by case basis.
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But it wasn't even social media history....it was second hand social media history, which is trivial to fake....all of which you completely ignore.
 
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Cabbage said:
But it wasn't even social media history....it was second hand social media history, which is trivial to fake....all of which you completely ignore.
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All the more reason to reject it as evidence in this case. You're trying to argue a point we already agree on. While, ironically, ignoring the point I'm actually making.
 
theprestige said:
All the more reason to reject it as evidence in this case. You're trying to argue a point we already agree on. While, ironically, ignoring the point I'm actually making.
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No, I wasn't the one giving support to social media history evidence in a debate where second hand social media history evidence was being used. That was exclusively you bro....just like it's exclusively you that is now whining about being called out for it. LOL!
 
Cabbage said:
No, I wasn't the one giving support to social media history evidence in a debate where second hand social media history evidence was being used. That was exclusively you bro....just like it's exclusively you that is now whining about being called out for it. LOL!
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It's a classic TBD/BTC move. "Oh, I wasn't talking about that..."
 
eeyore1954 said:
The problem is many people assume people who are against illegal immigration are automatically racist. If someone hates black and brown people immigrant or not because they are black and brown they are racist.

I know many people who are against illegal immigration but like black and brown people as much as any other color(Heaven forbid). Some of them are what you would refer to as black and brown people.
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A sizeable percentage of conservatives who focus on illegal immigration ARE racists. More to the point, however, the prevailing trends amongst Republicans and other conservative movements in this country is to scapegoat immigrants for decades of terrible domestic social and fiscal policy: Such as defunding programs that help the impoverished, the disastrous war on drugs and other backwards policies regarding drug offenses, hypercriminalization in general, deliberately obstructing any sort of sane health care reform. Rather than accepting responsibility for the problems that invariably arise from these practices the claim is frequently that our issues with crime rates, living standards, and poor health come from foreigners bringing the problems here.
 
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This Administration, as well as most Republicans in Congress and mot right-wing pundits love to make no distinction between lagal and illegal immigration unless prompted to do.
But Trump has made both kinds of migration harder. And Ice doesn't seem to be too careful not to get legal immigrants (or even citizens) deported if they look the part.

It is very hard to claim this polices aren't racially motivated.
 
plague311 said:
They seem to have done an extremely good job at hashing out the details of the Obstruction. In fact, the Dems appear to be taking it literally number by number of the 10 statements.

How does this help the Reps? I'm interested in that.
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And, did it help the Dems?
Did Trump or the Reps got hit?
Impeachment incoming?


Dems are too slow, too tame and they are still playing by the old rules.

Old rules
Exposer: HA! He lied!
Liar: Oh ****, they got me.
Society: Ohh, that's disgusting. He must go!

New rules
Exposer: HA! He lied!
Liar: Damn right I did!
Society: So what?
 
To all those Trump supporting forum members who insist that Russia interfering with the 2016 didn't happen and its all just a hoax:

If you won't believe those of us who have been paying attention, then pay attention to the members of your own Senate Intelligence Committee. This report was released on a bi-partisan basis, with the full support of Republican members of that committee....

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/7453...-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election
 
carlosy said:
And, did it help the Dems?
Did Trump or the Reps got hit?
Impeachment incoming?


Dems are too slow, too tame and they are still playing by the old rules.

Old rules
Exposer: HA! He lied!
Liar: Oh ****, they got me.
Society: Ohh, that's disgusting. He must go!

New rules
Exposer: HA! He lied!
Liar: Damn right I did!
Society: So what?
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Patience, patience. The world turns slowly, relatively.
 
smartcooky said:
To all those Trump supporting forum members who insist that Russia interfering with the 2016 didn't happen and its all just a hoax:

If you won't believe those of us who have been paying attention, then pay attention to the members of your own Senate Intelligence Committee. This report was released on a bi-partisan basis, with the full support of Republican members of that committee....

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/7453...-on-russian-interference-in-the-2016-election
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I wonder when they are going to tell Mitch.
 
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1154567847500242944

Trump says he has granted Attorney General William Barr the ability to share classified intelligence documents pertaining to the Russia investigation with Devin Nunes
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Video embedded in tweet.

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1153443510122700800

SCOOP: Trump met w/Devin Nunes last week to discuss replacements for Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats, in the latest sign that Coats is on his way out. The meeting has top ODNI officials worried that Nunes himself is in the running for the job.
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Article embedded in tweet.

https://twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/1153443780617547778

“The president would certainly consider Devin Nunes for the director’s position and I eventually see him serving in some capacity in this administration,” said one member of Congress who speaks to Trump frequently. More here with
@elianayjohnson
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