National Emergency

[Foolmewunz]

Neither of which characterization I did or did not attribute to Miller. So keep having a conversation with yourself I find it strangely amusing.

Does this pass as clever argumentation among your Low-IQ Cauc buddies? 'Cuz it ain't.

You clearly strung a bunch of words together that you thought clearly showed that Miller could not have nazi/fascist tendencies. You are now denying that it meant anything other than the obvious.

Like I said, this works with the Trump cult and other marginal mentalities. Sorta like Trump tweeting "As you can see, I did nothing to lead people on, nor was I particularly happy with their chant. Just a very big and patriotic crowd. They love the USA!" but it was a retweet of an infamous bigot in the UK whose approval-tweet(the only things he ever retweets) read ....

New Campaign slogan for #2020?

“Don’t love it? Leave it!”

Send her back is the new lock her up.

Well done to #TeamTrump

Here he did it in one tweet... say something isn't true while presenting evidence that it is. You're doing the same thing. You were clearly stating that Miller couldn't be a fascist-right-wing-crazy-nationalist-bigot... because he's Jewish. Now, to us, most of those things are interchangeable but you want to offer that you never said "white nationalist" as some sort of intellectual gotcha? I'm sure at your next rally in Okmulgee all the miscreants will shout agreement at you, Mr. President. But you're just blowing smoke.

 

[Baylor]

boring

 

[phiwum]

boring

Well, that's a worthwhile contribution.

 

[sackett]

I just felt a breeze

boring

Come now. I used that comment and similar ones as a last resort in TBG threads. He had it coming.

But you've been addressed substantively and challengingly. Your posts aren't as silly as tbd's* or as empty. You can reply, if you're not afraid.

I'm on no way flattered by your inept imitation. Bored, yes.

* That's no compliment. Do you realize that?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Others have pointed out the flaws in the bare numbers, but the analysis is also important. Agriculture is the most migratory/seasonal-based of these. It's basically the entry-level job. Not only for basic income, but to pick up the social knowledge of how to survive undocumented and therefore move into more stable trades.

[Related sidenote] Did you ever work in the fields? It's actually a very skilled job if you want to make enough money to survive. I picked pears once and it wasn't easy. But the migrant farm workers were really good at it, filled their bins in no time. I barely filled one bin in an entire day. [/sidenote]

 

[Foolmewunz]

boring

Because you've seen it so often before, amirite? Maybe if you were hopelessly wrong less frequently, so many people wouldn't have to point it out to you.

No one misquoted you. You simply made a fallacious argument in your rush to be the class clown with some feeble witticism.

 

[Baylor]

Because you've seen it so often before, amirite? Maybe if you were hopelessly wrong less frequently, so many people wouldn't have to point it out to you.

No one misquoted you. You simply made a fallacious argument in your rush to be the class clown with some feeble witticism.

Since you are unable to follow along (you feeling okay?) please refer to post #1302

 

[sackett]

[Related sidenote] Did you ever work in the fields? It's actually a very skilled job if you want to make enough money to survive. I picked pears once and it wasn't easy. But the migrant farm workers were really good at it, filled their bins in no time. I barely filled one bin in an entire day. [/sidenote]

I'm inclined to say that there's no such thing as unskilled labor. Some jobs are treated as if they were unskilled, that is, the new hire is pitched into them and required to learn on the spot, and I think that that's a wasteful way to procede.

The grower could have teamed you with an experienced picker. You would have learned efficient methods, including ways to avoid damaging fruit (something the grower should appeciate, you'd think), and become a better hand faster.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

[Related sidenote] Did you ever work in the fields? It's actually a very skilled job if you want to make enough money to survive. I picked pears once and it wasn't easy. But the migrant farm workers were really good at it, filled their bins in no time. I barely filled one bin in an entire day. [/sidenote]

I don't knock the skillset at all. It's the seasonal nature of the work that marks it as "entry level" not the potential for specialization.

 

[jimbob]

[Related sidenote] Did you ever work in the fields? It's actually a very skilled job if you want to make enough money to survive. I picked pears once and it wasn't easy. But the migrant farm workers were really good at it, filled their bins in no time. I barely filled one bin in an entire day. [/sidenote]

I did apple picking in my university holidays.

Piecework was hard, but good pay for me. £10/hr in 1990

 

[Paul2]

This smacks heavily of SS-Oberst-Gruppenführer Miller.

Jewish Nazis huh?

Hey Benjamin, tell Herschel the Wannsee Conference is going to be held at the synagogue this year.

This place has lost it.

post 1302:

"Miller is a Jew and therefore can't be racist" is not a very good argument, is it?

Since you are unable to follow along (you feeling okay?) please refer to post #1302

The only assumption necessary to understand this is the assumption that Nazis are racist, at least against the Jews.

 

[Baylor]

What's necessary is not to misquote people.

 

[Paul2]

What's necessary is not to misquote people.

You were mis-quoted.

Do you think it's possible that Miller is a racist despite being Jewish?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Because you've seen it so often before, amirite? Maybe if you were hopelessly wrong less frequently, so many people wouldn't have to point it out to you.

No one misquoted you. You simply made a fallacious argument in your rush to be the class clown with some feeble witticism.

Since you are unable to follow along (you feeling okay?) please refer to post #1302

Did they teach English Composition at the Cascade College of Cookin' and Sewin' and Gun Cleanin'? Do you understand that quotation marks, as in that sentence, are used when you are paraphrasing or characterizing a statement. Can we start up a GoFundMe to get you a useful Style Guide?

We have a QUOTE button. You've located it. If someone wants to quote someone, they use it.

It is, though, an accurate characterization of what you are arguing. You fail yet again.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

....
The grower could have teamed you with an experienced picker. You would have learned efficient methods, including ways to avoid damaging fruit (something the grower should appeciate, you'd think), and become a better hand faster.

Pffft. The grower didn't care. They pay you by the bin.

I don't think I damaged any fruit.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I don't knock the skillset at all. It's the seasonal nature of the work that marks it as "entry level" not the potential for specialization.

I don't see how seasonal means entry level. Along with the pickers, the people (mostly men) who drive the harvesting machinery are seasonal and not entry level.

 

[Baylor]

You were mis-quoted.

Do you think it's possible that Miller is a racist despite being Jewish?

This is not something I commented on or am interested in arguing for or against.

 

[Delphic Oracle]

I don't see how seasonal means entry level. Along with the pickers, the people (mostly men) who drive the harvesting machinery are seasonal and not entry level.

Jesus H. Christ do I need to write 3 pages of qualifiers to make a generalization?

ETA: I'll grant you there's no way for me to produce numbers on it now, the situation right now is not the "norm" of baseline migratory flow based exclusively on economic considerations. Right now there's just a giant red alarm sign confirming the longstanding U.S. narcotics policy is blowing up in their faces while they were in the middle of trying to fiddle with the affairs of the more stable republics, so here come thousands of displaced peoples (with a disproportionate skew towards those with native ancestry).

The other migratory trend is based on seasonal work. Aside from the narrative, most people willing to travel and work undocumented don't just transplant their whole family in a grand roll of the dice. I suppose I should more say that entry level seasonal work is the entry level work for this reason. I'd also include a fair number of the building trades there, too. I'm not knocking anyone or being cute when I say that framing, roofing, and drywalling where I live are basically Latino trades, just don't even bother otherwise (the wrinkle is there are development zones where the contractors are licensed and bonded, but most new construction is run by builders who know how to spend their money in the right places).

Seasonal work allows easing in, find a group of people who whisper the tricks of survival (along with the professional advice), and make the idea of permanent residence more realistic. So I'm using "entry level" as an analogy for the "career path" of survival without status.

I'm also not saying that all seasonal work is entry level.

 

[Paul2]

This is not something I commented on or am interested in arguing for or against.

You already implied it in the first of your quotes that I quoted above.

 

[Baylor]

You already implied it in the first of your quotes that I quoted above.

No I didn't