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All Politicians always try to ride on the coat tails of a national team's sports win.

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ceptimus said:
All Politicians always try to ride on the coat tails of a national team's sports win.

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It's the end of term when you're traditionally allowed to bring games in. She just brought the whole team.
 
Quick question: Assuming Boris gets to be PM and the rate of political resignations and defections away from the Tories, and Labour gets its ******* act together, how long after parliament resumes will it take before there is a Motion of No Confidence in the government and another general election is called?

That is, will Boris have the shortest and most ineffectual PM-ship in UK history?
 
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Quick question: Assuming Boris gets to be PM and the rate of political resignations and defections away from the Tories, and Labour gets its ******* act together, how long after parliament resumes will it take before there is a Motion of No Confidence in the government and another general election is called?

That is, will Boris have the shortest and most ineffectual PM-ship in UK history?
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There won't be a motion of no confidence and if there was BJ would win it. BJ would also win a GE anyway.

The idea that BJ is a liability for the Tories is a nonsense. He's the most popular and well known politician in the UK. He might be incompetent but when did that ever matter?
 
ceptimus said:
All Politicians always try to ride on the coat tails of a national team's sports win.

[qimg]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/8097/production/_107891923_england_team_pa.jpg[/qimg]

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How apt. The cricket team repeatedly failed to get a majority of runs in the final. ;)
 
Remoaner ministers are resigning in protest at a likely Boris win in Prime Ministerial race (or maybe quitting before they can be fired ?). They say that they don't want a no-deal Brexit which will they say will be very damaging.

So far it's Phil Hammond, David Gauke and Alan Duncan, but the rumour is that there are others are considering their positions.

Sir Alan Duncan has quit as a foreign office minister in protest against a possible Boris Johnson victory in the Conservative leadership race.

In his resignation letter, Sir Alan described Brexit as "a dark cloud".

Chancellor Philip Hammond and Justice Secretary David Gauke have already said they intend to resign if he wins.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49069880
 
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Remoaner ministers are resigning in protest at a likely Boris win in Prime Ministerial race (or maybe quitting before they can be fired ?). They say that they don't want a no-deal Brexit which will they say will be very damaging.

So far it's Phil Hammond, David Gauke and Alan Duncan, but the rumour is that there are others are considering their positions.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49069880
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It's possible they're jumping before they're pushed but it's not impossible they think having held high office in the widely-scorned May government will actually look better on their c.v. than what's coming next.
 
The Don said:
Remoaner ministers are resigning in protest at a likely Boris win in Prime Ministerial race (or maybe quitting before they can be fired ?). They say that they don't want a no-deal Brexit which will they say will be very damaging.

So far it's Phil Hammond, David Gauke and Alan Duncan, but the rumour is that there are others are considering their positions.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49069880
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Shows what a total liar Theresa May was - she said, over and over again, that, "No deal is better than a bad deal", knowing that she'd chosen her cabinet and ministers stuffed full of remainers who were not prepared to countenance 'no deal' under any circumstances.

Anyway, good riddance to the lot of them, let's hope they lose the Tory whip before the next election, and are therefore deselected and lose their jobs.
 
I see Jo Swinson has been elected the new leader of the Liberal Democrats. I wonder how many of the Lib Dems will demand a second election because they're not happy with the outcome of this first one?
 
ceptimus said:
Shows what a total liar Theresa May was - she said, over and over again, that, "No deal is better than a bad deal", knowing that she'd chosen her cabinet and ministers stuffed full of remainers who were not prepared to countenance 'no deal' under any circumstances.

Anyway, good riddance to the lot of them, let's hope they lose the Tory whip before the next election, and are therefore deselected and lose their jobs.
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Exactly the whole brexit has been about fighting the will of the people. The people wanted a closed border with the EU and that means closing the Irish border, to try to keep that border open is spitting in the face of democracy.
 
ceptimus said:
Shows what a total liar Theresa May was - she said, over and over again, that, "No deal is better than a bad deal", knowing that she'd chosen her cabinet and ministers stuffed full of remainers who were not prepared to countenance 'no deal' under any circumstances.

Anyway, good riddance to the lot of them, let's hope they lose the Tory whip before the next election, and are therefore deselected and lose their jobs.
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In fairness, she would have had to find a cabinet of Brexiteers capable of forming complete sentences without including too many racial epithets or obviously bigoted things. I'm not sure there are enough to fill the cabinet.
 
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In fairness, she would have had to find a cabinet of Brexiteers capable of forming complete sentences without including too many racial epithets or obviously bigoted things. I'm not sure there are enough to fill the cabinet.
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It will be interesting to see if Boris manages to do it - assuming the remoaners allow him to try. Seems some remoaners, Amber Rudd?, are so keen to keep their cabinet jobs that they don't mind pretending to embrace 'no deal', for a while longer yet...
 
ceptimus said:
It will be interesting to see if Boris manages to do it - assuming the remoaners allow him to try. Seems some remoaners, Amber Rudd?, are so keen to keep their cabinet jobs that they don't mind pretending to embrace 'no deal', for a while longer yet...
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No, because once he is Prime Minister he can finally get out the plans he, Rees-Mogg and Farage have worked out in detail, present them to the EU, watch them dissolve in tears of gratitude for the sheer brilliance of them and have things sorted by teatime.

And if that fails, that is clearly never the fault of the brexit camp, if only everyone else had just done what they wanted, even the contradictory bits, the world would be better already.

I wonder what it will take for you to ever admit that the failure of brexit is not due to so called Remoaners, but rather the utter incompetence of the actual Brexit camp beyond getting the referendum trough.
 
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Exactly the whole brexit has been about fighting the will of the people. The people wanted a closed border with the EU and that means closing the Irish border, to try to keep that border open is spitting in the face of democracy.
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Why is it always called the 'Irish Border'?

It's the UK Border.
 
ceptimus said:
It will be interesting to see if Boris manages to do it - assuming the remoaners allow him to try. Seems some remoaners, Amber Rudd?, are so keen to keep their cabinet jobs that they don't mind pretending to embrace 'no deal', for a while longer yet...
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We may have something we agree on. I think a lot of MPs, whether ostensible Leavers or Remainers, bend with the wind as it suits their careers. A shabby lot. What's that quote? They haven't lost their consciences, they've forgotten where they put them. Politique politiciens.
 
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