Mueller Investigation pt 6

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Boomerang News: FBI Never Saw CrowdStrike Unredacted or Final Report on Alleged Russian Hacking Because None was Produced

Ray McGovern said:
[...] The revelation came in a court filing by the government in the pre-trial phase of Roger Stone, a long-time Republican operative who had an unofficial role in the campaign of candidate Donald Trump. Stone has been charged with misleading Congress, obstructing justice and intimidating a witness.

The filing was in response to a motion by Stone’s lawyers asking for “unredacted reports” from CrowdStrike in an effort to get the government to prove that Russia hacked the DNC server. “The government … does not possess the information the defandant seeks,” the filing says.

In his motion, Stone’s lawyers said he had only been given three redacted drafts. In a startling footnote in the government’s response, the DOJ admits the drafts are all that exist. “Although the reports produced to the defendant are marked ‘draft,’ counsel for the DNC and DCCC informed the government that they are the last version of the report produced,” the footnote says.

In other words CrowdStrike, upon which the FBI relied to conclude that Russia hacked the DNC, never completed a final report and only turned over three redacted drafts to the government. [...]
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LOL.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Boomerang News: FBI Never Saw CrowdStrike Unredacted or Final Report on Alleged Russian Hacking Because None was Produced

LOL.
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Aren't you supposed to be a tech person?

My overwhelming question to this is: So?

It appears they provided information but they didn't produce a final draft. Sometimes it isn't required to do so.

It doesn't say that there is no evidence in your link, just that they aren't providing unredacted reports. Which if Stone is charged with misleading Congress, obstructing justice, and intimidating a witness, I don't understand how the hack is relevant. How does it relate?

Granted, I might be missing something but I didn't think Stone was being charged in relation to the hacking.
 
wikipedia on Ray McGovern said:
Russian interference in the 2016 election
McGovern holds a position that the theft of the DNC emails was an inside job, and not the work of Russian agents (contrary to the findings published by the US intelligence community). In his view, the metadata in the files released by Guccifer 2.0 (whom the US intelligence community identifies as a Russian military intelligence operation) has been manipulated to show that the documents came from Russia, where in fact according to this theory they originated from a computer in the Eastern United States. McGovern subsequently released a VIPS report in support of his theory. Many of the VIPS members however, did not sign the report and expressed a view that the inside job theory itself is a disinformation campaign run by a pro-Kremlin hacker Tim Leonard[33].
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#33 is this - Briton ran pro-Kremlin disinformation campaign that helped Trump deny Russian links
 
carlitos said:
#33 is this - Briton ran pro-Kremlin disinformation campaign that helped Trump deny Russian links
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Right, the DNC sabotaged Clinton.

Of course no surprise Trump and Pompeo are on the case.:rolleyes:

This will not be the end of the claims the DNC leaked their own emails. Nunes is also on the case. And if it's this complicated, Nunes will have all kinds of questions for those FBI agents he tries to frame as corrupt.


A couple people in that article look like they could be the source of hundreds of Russian troll accounts all on their own.
 
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Iamafalser said:
The president can fire the FBI Director if he doesn't like the color of his tie.

He did not fire Comey to stop an investigation. He fired him because Comey's a partisan incompetent boob.
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You are aware that Comey is a Republican, right?
 
plague311 said:
On some level you have to respect a person willing to spend 30+ days in Fergus Falls for any reason at all. I spent a ton of time there, and the only thing entertaining about that place is leaving.
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Yay bigotry.

This is why some people don't vote progressive.

Because they see that progressives are bigots too.
 
theprestige said:
Comey is a political operative. Tell us one conservative principle Comey has declared and defended.
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Seriously? In his working like he was exactly the opposite of a political operative, he had to be. People that work in the DoJ and FBI are supposed to do so neutrally, which to most accounts he did. That doesn't change the fact that he's a Republican, but since he's not a politician why would you expect to see him publicly declaring or defending conservative principles?
 
theprestige said:
Comey is a political operative. Tell us one conservative principle Comey has declared and defended.
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You're challenging us to find a conservative political principle that Comey declared and defended, and if we can't find that political principle, that means that Comey was political? Not finding one would only help show that Comey wasn't political, especially since he's a Republican. You've got it completely backwards.

Unless you think that liberalism means political tolerance, which necessitates political neutrality for law enforcement, in which case, you're right, the reality of a functioning democracy has a liberal bias.
 
theprestige said:
Yay bigotry.

This is why some people don't vote progressive.

Because they see that progressives are bigots too.
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Not liking a particular town ranks pretty low on my bigotry index, but I guess to each their own. Unless there's some key context I'm missing?
 
Actually looking into it further....

Comey was a Republican up until around 2016 (he declared to Congress in July that year that he was unaffiliated at that point.)

He started out his career as a clerk to the Conservative United States District Judge John M. Walker Jr. (cousin of George H. W. Bush) who was appointed by Reagan in June of 1985, after having been his Assistant Transport Secretary.

in 1996 he was part of the investigation team on Whitewater, investigating Bill Clinton, and further investigated Bill Clinton in 2004 for the controversial pardon of Marc Rich after being appointed to Deputy Attorney General by George W. Bush.

He was the lead prosecutor of life time Democrat, Martha Stewart, for her lying to the FBI.

He did have a stand off with the Whitehouse over their wish for warrentless wiretapping, threatening to resign, however that didn't occur after Bush changed the requirements of the program.

This is his opinion as of 2007...

The Department of Justice, in my view, is run by political appointees of the President. The U.S. attorneys are political appointees of the President. But once they take those jobs and run this institution, it's very important in my view for that institution to be another in American life, that—because my people had to stand up before juries of all stripes, talk to sheriffs of all stripes, judges of all stripes. They had to be seen as the good guys, and not as either this administration or that administration.

In 2009 his name appeared on a shortlist of possible Supreme Court nominees, and as a result it created push back from liberal groups who described him as "just a few inches to the center of Roberts."

He was appointed as FBI director under Obama in 2013 with just 1 opposing vote and 2 abstentions.

Since 2017 he has gone on to say that the "The Republican Party has left me and many others" and also that over the Trump Campaign that he "came to the conclusion that these people don’t represent anything I believe in."

This however was also caused in part by the GOP attacking him.

"I need no better evidence than their new website — which I think is ‘LyinComey,’ maybe? — attacking me. … I just think they’ve lost their way, and I can’t be associated with it."

He has now pushed further in saying that "This Republican Congress has proven incapable of fulfilling the Founders' design that 'Ambition must ... counteract ambition.' All who believe in this country's values must vote for Democrats this fall. Policy differences don't matter right now. History has its eyes on us."

He has followed this up with support for Democrat Jennifer Wexton in her successful race against Republican Rep. Barbara Comstock (Va.) in 2018.

So one can certainly say that as of now his feelings towards the currently serving Republicans are very negative, but from his history there is nothing to show that he was partisan in any way, and until their attacks on him, he was certainly an active Republican or at least leaning that way.
 
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plague311 said:
On some level you have to respect a person willing to spend 30+ days in Fergus Falls for any reason at all. I spent a ton of time there, and the only thing entertaining about that place is leaving.
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theprestige said:
Yay bigotry.

This is why some people don't vote progressive.

Because they see that progressives are bigots too.
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Hmmmm. Maybe it's just me, but I can't see the part of plague311's post that is bigoted. :confused::confused:Could you kindly point it out to me?
 
Stacyhs said:
Hmmmm. Maybe it's just me, but I can't see the part of plague311's post that is bigoted. :confused::confused:Could you kindly point it out to me?
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Perhaps bigoted against whites? After all in 2010 it is 95.5% Americans of European descent, with just 1.1% Americans of African descent.

Seems all the minorities figured that it wasn't worth staying there either.
 
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