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BobTheCoward said:
You have no evidence it is corrupt.
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We have a SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT whose company is getting 10's of millions of dollars in funding from sources that are hiding their identities, but some are known to be foreigners. This SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT also happens to be married to the president's favorite daughter. Yes, I do consider it to be corruption for a person in such a position to have business ventures with anonymous foreigners (who likely have connections to foreign governments). "Corruption" is not limited to activities that are explicitly illegal.
 
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TellyKNeasuss said:
We have a SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT whose company is getting 10's of millions of dollars in funding from sources that are hiding their identities, but some are known to be foreigners. This SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT also happens to be married to the president's favorite daughter. Yes, I do consider it to be corruption for a person in such a position to have business ventures with anonymous foreigners (who likely have connections to foreign governments). "Corruption" is not limited to activities that are explicitly illegal.
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Someone has told you about Bob right?
 
gregthehammer said:
Why is it i bristle everytime i see that: "Our Patriot Farmers". What about us "Patriot Estimators" or "Patriot Engineers" or even "Patriot Production Control" people? Huh?
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That's what they call them in China and in the old Soviet Union.


Stacyhs said:
Every time he uses "Great Patriot____________" he reminds me of the typical Soviet Russia rhetoric.
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Yep.
 
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Craig4 said:
Trump's bitch boy Barr (what do you call the bitch boy of a Russian whore? hmm...) must be a bit worried about his contempt citation. He's starting to make threats. I guess they hit him in a soft spot.
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I get the feeling he is sensitive to what other lawyers think of him. A lawyer who ignores the rule of law is a kind of traitor. That he acts like it just doesn't matter is not going to increase his professional standing.
 
Minoosh said:
I get the feeling he is sensitive to what other lawyers think of him. A lawyer who ignores the rule of law is a kind of traitor. That he acts like it just doesn't matter is not going to increase his professional standing.
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He was still working as a lawyer when he betrayed his country and sold out to Trump. He may not be welcomed back by respectable lawyers who follow the rule of law and remained loyal to the nation.
 
Armitage72 said:
Remember when Trump said he was going to fight for LGBTQ rights around the world? I guess the support is going to be covert.

Administration bans US embassies from displaying rainbow flags during Pride Month.
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That was shortly after taking multiple high-profile moves against the T part of LGBT and over, say, 100 cases of very clearly showing that they are not showing actual solidarity with the LGBT community. Still, it actually is telling that I can't refute the related claim that this is the most LGBT-friendly Republican administration in history.
 
Minoosh said:
I get the feeling he is sensitive to what other lawyers think of him. A lawyer who ignores the rule of law is a kind of traitor. That he acts like it just doesn't matter is not going to increase his professional standing.
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The moment Barr runs into legal trouble, Trump will drop him like he's hot. Trump doesn't associate with losers, and Barr will realise that Donny's promises of support are as hollow as his head. Trump will say that he never liked Barr after all, probably because he couldn't even get coffee (covfefe?) satisfactorily.
 
TellyKNeasuss said:
We have a SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT whose company is getting 10's of millions of dollars in funding from sources that are hiding their identities, but some are known to be foreigners. This SENIOR ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT also happens to be married to the president's favorite daughter. Yes, I do consider it to be corruption for a person in such a position to have business ventures with anonymous foreigners (who likely have connections to foreign governments). "Corruption" is not limited to activities that are explicitly illegal.
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There is a logical reason for criminalizing the appearance of corruption. It is very difficult to identify corrupt intent, so it is easy to ban both. However, that does ban things that appear corrupt but are not actually corrupt.

What people then do is conflate corruption with the appearance of corruption.

Corruption is having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain. You have no idea if Kushner is acting dishonesty because of this arrangement.
 
BobTheCoward said:
There is a logical reason for criminalizing the appearance of corruption. It is very difficult to identify corrupt intent, so it is easy to ban both. However, that does ban things that appear corrupt but are not actually corrupt.

What people then do is conflate corruption with the appearance of corruption.

Corruption is having or showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain. You have no idea if Kushner is acting dishonesty because of this arrangement.
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He is making personal gains for himself by virtue of his office. That is specifically illegal in the USA for public officers.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Your the side claiming it is corruption. I'm rejecting that claim, what piece of information reveals that it was about his position?
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Even if you only got news and information from the forum you'd know these guys aren't exactly hiding their corruption. It's more like shoving it in people's faces with contempt.

Have you tried Googling "Kushner corrupt" or Kushner profiteering"?
 
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