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@FLOTUS Melania and I send our deepest condolences to President Reuven Rivlin and the entire State of Israel upon the passing of Mrs. Nechama Rivlin. Mrs. Rivlin represented her beloved country with grace and stature. We will miss her along with all those who knew her.
 
TofuFighter said:
For those who skipped the link, the piece does not say that trump is literally an honest person, but rather that he's just dumb as a bag of hammers and unashamed of the boundless asshattery he personifies, and which the writer believes he intrinsically represents, being standard fare as head of the US government .
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Exactly.

Caitlin Johnstone said:
[...] Obama could have made this look normal. Bush would have looked a little bit goofy, but nothing that would make you spit your coffee on your screen. Hell, Bill Clinton would have looked downright at home, like he was born in Buckingham Palace and spent his whole life sipping champagne and groping the maids while he waited for this photo to be taken. It took the badly-dressed awkward posture and golf bod of a reality TV star who became president via 4chan prank to expose that whole absurd royalty display for the risible self-parody that it deserves to be seen as.

Trump’s entire presidency has been like this. Blatant, tactless, and completely unmasked.

Journalist gets literally butchered in an embassy by the Saudi government? Yeah well we don’t want to do anything about that because they’ve got an arms deal with us worth billions of dollars. He just comes right out and says it. When they want to stage a coup in Venezuela, they don’t limit it to CIA covert ops and behind-the-scenes manipulations; the whole administration is on Twitter saying they’re going to keep starving everyone with sanctions until the nation’s president is replaced with the guy they prefer. It’s all right there, right in your face, as closeted and secret Flavor Flav’s fondness for clocks.

His whole cabinet is basically human versions of the departments they represent. His Secretary Treasurer was a Goldman Sachs executive. His CIA Director literally tortured people. His National Security Advisor is an Iraq-raping Bush-era neocon. His Secretary of Commerce is a former Rothschild executive. His EPA Administrator is a former coal lobbyist. His Secretary of State came straight out of the CIA. It’s like he designed a convenient labeling system for everyone who’s unsure of what it is that each department in the executive branch of the US government actually does. [...]
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Oh, and as to my remark:

Caitlin Johnstone said:
[...] The most aggressive anti-Trumpists have no interest in real change, they just want things to go back to the way they were before Trump, which is actually just wanting to go back to the conditions which gave rise to Trump. They’re not interested in waking up, they’re interested in smoothing an uncomfortable wrinkle in their bedsheets so that they can go back to sleep.

And if that happens, fine, whatever; it’s not like they were taking any meaningful action against the ugly face of empire anyway. But at least things got shaken up with a little honesty for a while. A little corrupt, blood-spattered, button-popping honesty.
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He's in Europe during the 75th anniversary of the D-Day landing. And he Tweets about Bette Midler (among many other unrelated subjects).

Steve said:
One, six, doesn’t matter. He will never open it. Watch for it on eBay if he thinks he can make a buck.
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But he will sign the title page in GIANT POINTY SQUIGGLES.

The Great Zaganza said:
Trump is going to back down on mexico tariffs.
I'd bet on it.
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Yes. Since his strategy is "We'll See What Happens", he just throws out whatever he thinks of at the moment and responds to the reaction.

One thing I don't know though -- how does he have the power to assign tariffs arbitrarily without an Executive Action? I thought money was Congress' job.
 
Trump Tweets

As we approach the 75th Anniversary of D-Day, we proudly commemorate those heroic and honorable patriots who gave their all for the cause of freedom during some of history’s darkest hours. #DDay75
 
Giordano said:
I do still agree with the concept that one of the core human rights is the freedom to leave a country if you no longer wish to live there. Free countries observe this right for the most part. Despite the limitations the USA has imposed via the passport requirement (fugitives, people on bond, IRS issues, some much more questionable calls), for the most part the vast vast majority of USA citizens still have the right to leave if they wish. Finding a country to take them is harder but it is between them and their targeted country. I would expect the same of Mexico as I indicated in my first post on this subject. It is wrong to expect them to block this right of their citizens. For practical purposes it is best to coordinate this right of departure with the immigration system of their targeted country (most often the USA) as much as possible, but ultimately Mexico should not prevent the right of their citizens to leave whatever the limitations USA imposes on their ability to enter.
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Even fugitives are not really blocked from leaving. Obviously law enforcement would like to arrest them before they can flee, but this isn’t but any actual blocking usually comes from the other side of the border. IOW your first post was completely correct, prohibiting people from leaving the country is a human rights violation. Just because your country doesn’t stop you from leaving doesn’t mean anyone else is obliged to let you in and indeed they are fully within their rights to send you back.

To summarize:
- Blocking people from exiting the country. You can’t actively block people from leaving the country, but there can be reasonable rules and regulations that limit when/where/how
- You can block people from entering the country, as long as you comply with human rights standards and international law wrt refugees.

Basically Trump don’t want to take responsibility for his own problems and is just whining other people won’t do everything for him even though, in this case, Mexico cannot do what he’s demanding as you rightly pointed out.
 
Giordano said:
I do still agree with the concept that one of the core human rights is the freedom to leave a country if you no longer wish to live there.
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Yeah but without corresponding rule that a country will accept you and the fact that there are no more "wild frontiers" you can go live on... what's the point? Live in an Airport Terminal like Tom Hanks?

It's like saying I have a right to leave my house but don't have a right to step into my front or back yards.
 
Trump Tweets

“House Republicans support the President on Tariffs with Mexico all the way, & that makes any measure the President takes on the Border totally Veto proof. Why wouldn’t you as Republicans support him when that will allow our President to make a better deal.”

Thank you @GOPLeader
 
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I don't really see the sticking point of what Trump is asking of Mexico to do as being a "right to leave" though that may eventually be the issue.

The more pressing issue is freedom of movement within the country.

Trump fails to comprehend (No! Say it isn't so!) that Mexico has the same freedom of movement within their country that Americans enjoy in theirs, the same freedom of movement most Western democracies share.
 
The Greater Fool said:
I don't really see the sticking point of what Trump is asking of Mexico to do as being a "right to leave" though that may eventually be the issue.

The more pressing issue is freedom of movement within the country.

Trump fails to comprehend (No! Say it isn't so!) that Mexico has the same freedom of movement within their country that Americans enjoy in theirs, the same freedom of movement most Western democracies share.
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Ultimately I don't think Trump really believes in freedom of movement within the US either. Unless you can afford your own plane, anyway.
 
Doubt said:
Ultimately I don't think Trump really believes in freedom of movement within the US either. Unless you can afford your own plane, anyway.
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The problem is that you are under the mistaken idea that Trump thinks anything he says through.
 
ponderingturtle said:
The problem is that you are under the mistaken idea that Trump thinks anything he says through.
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Doubt said:
Not so much what he says, no. But he does have some core beliefs.
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I think you're both right in a way.

I've often times described Trump as a man with no personality, just a persona.

I don't think he went into the Presidency with a plan or a goal or an agenda in any real usable sense of the term.

My fear he's starting to develop them as time goes on however.
 
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