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America transitions into Gilead

BobTheCoward said:
In Gilead, do all our razors get more and more blades?
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Yes.

Bit of trivia: the original url doesn't have asterisks. The forum software substitutes those, but fortunately the number at the end allows the server software at the linked site to recover the correct link. But let this stand as a language warning, there's some swearing involved.
 
Travis said:
I'd like to say that all the Bernie Bros who said back in 2016 that it was okay, nay a requirement, to vote Stein because women were safe can collectively all just go jump off a cliff.
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The left always eats its own.

I said then that conservatives would never be satisfied until women were reduced to slaves for men's whims but I was just talking "nonsense" and yet here we now are.
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Where exactly do you think "here" is?
 
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Do any of these states who do not allow abortions if rape is involved also have the possibility that the father can claim custody of the child? Rapists would then be able to use women as incubators for their children and discard the mothers at brith.
 
Is it coincidence?

"Gilead Sciences, the maker of HIV prevention drug Truvada, is sending the United States a very big gift. It will be donating enough supply to support Trump’s initiative that seeks to eliminate transmission of the virus within the next decade."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-st...EotujuBJJYSG3lHRSYHtaDvFgfCxJMSPL14662qTSkhZ0


I know.. it has nothing to do with the topic, other than a coincidental name.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Is it coincidence?

"Gilead Sciences, the maker of HIV prevention drug Truvada, is sending the United States a very big gift. It will be donating enough supply to support Trump’s initiative that seeks to eliminate transmission of the virus within the next decade."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-st...EotujuBJJYSG3lHRSYHtaDvFgfCxJMSPL14662qTSkhZ0


I know.. it has nothing to do with the topic, other than a coincidental name.
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Tell me more about why you believe in Yahoo! News.
 
Trebuchet said:
Quoted because it bears repeating. Birth control and sex education are the very best ways of preventing abortion, but somehow the (usually Republican) idiots who oppose abortion also oppose those. "Abstinence Only" has, IIRC, been shown to actually increase rates of teen pregnancy.
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It's not hard to understand why. It's all about the numbers. They want more teen pregnancies because it gives them more children to indoctrinate with their hateful cult fantasies. The more people they have under their thumb the more powerful the cult becomes, so of course they appose anything that reduces the birth rate (sex education, birth control, abortion, homosexuality etc.).

Genesis 38:8-10
Then Judah said to Onan, “Sleep with your brother’s wife. Perform your duty as her brother-in-law and raise up offspring for your brother.” But Onan knew that the offspring would not belong to him; so whenever he would sleep with his brother’s wife, he would spill his seed on the ground so that he would not produce offspring for his brother. What he did was evil in the LORD’s sight, so He put Onan to death
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I'm probably the only person reading this from Goliad county, so I'm confused on when you will all be arriving. I probably have enough beer, but whisky is running a bit low.
 
Meadmaker said:
The bill doesn't say that. This is a fiction.

The bill is stupid, and it does reference the non-existent procedure to which you are referring, but it does not say that this non-existent procedure must be performed or attempted in order to secure funding for some other, real, procedure. The bill says insurance companies may fund abortion if the abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother. There are no restrictions, requirements, or prohibitions on that clause of the legislation.

The bill also has not been voted on, and I am extremely confident that if it ever gets to a vote, this one specific bit of idiocy will be edited out before even the vote takes place.

My goal here is not to defend the legislation or the idiot legislator who introduced it. In the press, it has been derided, correctly in my opinion, as an example of legislation being introduced by abortion opponents that demonstrates their ignorance of medicine, among other things. The guy is an idiot, as are a lot of people who oppose abortion, and his bill is proof of his idiocy. However, it does not do what you say it does, either in the OP, or in your more recent post. There's plenty of stupid to criticize if you stick to what the bill actually does. There's no need to invent additional stupid.
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If what you are saying is correct then I jumped to a conclusion or misinterpreted something. Doesn't change that these states are very much trying to eliminate huge swathes of women's healthcare.


If Georgia gets its way when do women get so scared of being reported as pregnant that they just stop seeing doctors?


BobTheCoward said:
If I offer to buy you a cake if it is chocolate, I'm not mandating you buy chocolate cake.
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"Why yes, I'll have the cake and an ectopic pregnancy, please schedule it for next Tuesday."
 
Travis said:
If what you are saying is correct then I jumped to a conclusion or misinterpreted something. Doesn't change that these states are very much trying to eliminate huge swathes of women's healthcare.
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What they are trying to eliminate is elective abortion, which I suppose is a "huge swath". People are probably a bit complacent about it. No one in America who is capable of getting pregnant today can remember a time when abortion was not a safe and legal option. It has just always been. If Roe v. Wade is overturned, and I think it will be, there will be some rude awakenings. Also, abortion will be front and center politically. For most of the electorate, it really hasn't been an issue for their whole lives. Whether a politician was for it or against it, the Supreme Court said it was legal, so it didn't much matter what the politician said.

Now, this issue is one that will actually affect people's lives in a big way, even more than whether they pay and additional 1% of their income in taxes.

In order to try to shake people out of their complacency, the opinion portion of the media exaggerates, engages in hyperbole, takes things out of context in order to distort it, and generally is more interested in gaining support than in providing accurate information. You bought into that hype.

For example:

If Georgia gets its way when do women get so scared of being reported as pregnant that they just stop seeing doctors?
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The answer is never. I don't know what's in the Georgia law, but I am extremely confident that there is nothing in it that would make a woman stop seeing a doctor, and I am extremely confident it would not provide the death penalty for a pregnant woman who gets an abortion. I say that without even knowing the contents of the bill. I will probably look it up to say what the bill really says, but I'm confident it is not that.

On the other hand, what they are actually doing is making it illegal to get an abortion. I am fairly certain that some of the various bills that have been passed lately could result in women being thrown in prison for getting, or possible even seeking, an abortion. I think that time is coming soon in America. On the other hand, I've thought that before. I remember the day that the opinion for Webster v. Missouri came out. For some reason, I happened to be home that day from work, and it was being covered live. There was a lot of anticipation that Roe was going to be overturned, but the Supreme Court surprised everyone. We'll see what happens this time around. That was a long time ago. I don't think anyone on the court today was on the court then.
 
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