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Cont: Man shot, killed by off-duty Dallas police officer who walked into wrong apartment p2

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I think this writer must be ghosting our thread.
His article came out days after our in depth questioning of this.

https://newsone.com/3848852/amber-guyger-cruise-subpoena/

Did Amber Guyger Go On A Caribbean Cruise After Killing Botham Jean?
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The subpoena could be damning for Guuyger on multiple levels. Not only could it allow prosecutors to portray Guyger as a carefree vacationer following what appeared to be a cold-blooded murder of an innocent man. It could also show Guyger violated the terms of her conditional release from jail.

“Beginning in November 2018, the judge stated Guyger was to surrender her passport to her attorney and was not to travel outside Texas without the court’s approval,” NBC reminded.
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Well she would need a vacation after experiencing the trauma of staying awake for 16 grueling hours. You need some self care after a horrific experience like that.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Well she would need a vacation after experiencing the trauma of staying awake for 16 grueling hours. You need some self care after a horrific experience like that.
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Or she may have just accidentally booked the cruise and went on the cruise because the entrance to the booking office looked like the entrance to her local Target store. Who hasn't done that?
 
I'll guess, since we haven't heard, she didn't shot someone that she thought was in her room after mistaking another guests room as hers because, you know, tired from all the fun in the sun for 16 hours. Or, maybe she did and that's why the cruise records are wanted.
 
LTC8K6 said:
Why would it take more than a few hours to figure out if she took a cruise when she was not allowed to?
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Figuring out that something happened is separate from gathering evidence to prove something happened?
 
Darat said:
Or she may have just accidentally booked the cruise and went on the cruise because the entrance to the booking office looked like the entrance to her local Target store. Who hasn't done that?
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You know what's probably more likely? She'd booked the cruise prior to the shooting (if they're looking back as far as Sept 23, that's quite likely). Then she looked at the already-paid-for cruise, and thought, "Well, I ****** up shooting that guy, I know it, and so I'm likely going to end up in prison sometime in the next year or so. So, **** it, let's take the cruise. What, are they going to throw me in prison even harder?" After all, there's no vacations from prison, so you might as well go while you've got the chance.


Sure, maybe they should have put travel restrictions on her much earlier than they did, but if they didn't, well, **** it. I'd have probably done the same in her place.
 
Horatius said:
You know what's probably more likely? She'd booked the cruise prior to the shooting (if they're looking back as far as Sept 23, that's quite likely). Then she looked at the already-paid-for cruise, and thought, "Well, I ****** up shooting that guy, I know it, and so I'm likely going to end up in prison sometime in the next year or so. So, **** it, let's take the cruise. What, are they going to throw me in prison even harder?" After all, there's no vacations from prison, so you might as well go while you've got the chance.


Sure, maybe they should have put travel restrictions on her much earlier than they did, but if they didn't, well, **** it. I'd have probably done the same in her place.
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Of course this is speculation, but let's say the cruise was already booked.

Taking it certainly could persuade a juror or two who would otherwise have been be leaning toward clearing her to instead convict her, interpreting the cruise as evidence of her state of mind being callous and unconcerned as to the killing of an innocent man.

And even if one assumes that she would have been convicted anyway, her going on a cruise could certainly impact her sentence.

So as I see it, yes, they certainly could throw her in jail harder; a lot harder!

So I would not recommend it.
 
Giordano said:
Of course this is speculation, but let's say the cruise was already booked.

Taking it certainly could persuade a juror or two who would otherwise have been be leaning toward clearing her to instead convict her, interpreting the cruise as evidence of her state of mind being callous and unconcerned as to the killing of an innocent man.

And even if one assumes that she would have been convicted anyway, her going on a cruise could certainly impact her sentence.

So as I see it, yes, they certainly could throw her in jail harder; a lot harder!

So I would not recommend it.
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Well, it's all speculation to us, but it's not speculation to her. We don't know what actually went down that night, but she does. This might be a sign that she knows she's guilty, and that even a brain-dead juror will see that once all the evidence is presented. So, since she's in the know, why not live a little before the hammer comes down?
 
What is possible, is that she booked the cruise previous to the shooting.
And didn't go. But looking through the finances, they saw the charge, so they are seeing if she actually went. Unless you buy cancellation insurance, I don't think all cruises are refundable.

Also- Trial date got moved to september 23rd.
 
Bob001 said:
Is that a surprise? Could anyone rely on the testimony of an accused murderer?
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It isn't just that . . . how willing would she be to testify for the prosecution at this point?
 
theprestige said:
Paywall. What are the facts?
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In the months since Amber Guyger fatally shot Botham Jean in his home, prosecutors have dismissed at least nine cases she investigated when she was still a Dallas police officer.
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Four of the dismissed cases stemmed from the arrest of two men during a January 2018 traffic stop by Guyger and another officer. Three of those involved drug charges. The fourth, involving an allegation of unlawfully carrying a weapon, was also dismissed, and the gun was returned. But prosecutors' motion to dismiss that case was not found in the court file.
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/cri...sted-amber-guyger-get-pass-thanks-murder-case

Try clearing your history and cookies.
 
I find this really strange. One for the fact that she is still innocent of any crime in the eyes of the criminal justice system and two what bearing does her charges have on the past arrests?
 
qayak said:
It isn't just that . . . how willing would she be to testify for the prosecution at this point?
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She would probably be willing to do anything to make the prosecutors happy, which itself would raise doubts about the veracity of her testimony.
 
Darat said:
I find this really strange. One for the fact that she is still innocent of any crime in the eyes of the criminal justice system and two what bearing does her charges have on the past arrests?
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1/ Criminal prosecutions, especially in high-profile cases, take a long time in the U.S. Both sides get to conduct thorough investigations, question witnesses, hire experts, examine evidence etc. before trial. 2/ The past arrests require her testimony at trial. The fact that she's charged with murder certainly raises doubts about her judgment and integrity.
 
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