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There are no peaceful forms of communism. You're kidding yourself.

Nope, I've seen it for myself - Vietnam is pretty peaceful these days

- its a one-party state (that party is the Communist Party of Vietnam)
- there are Communist slogans on every street, every road and on many buildings
- there is a cult-like following for former leader, President Ho Chi Minh
- there are busts and portraits of Ho Chi Minh in every school and public building.
 
That statement alone shows that everything I posted went straight over your head. That is not unusual when somebody is a slave to blind prejudice.

ftfy.
It is quite apparent that you not only don't judge people by what they do and what they say you do not even listen to what they say. Since you are not open to facts and evidence it is rather pointless to continue our discussion.
 
Yes, against the authorities, not against a privately owned newspaper or the social media:




I don't remember the alt-right standing up for the left, but maybe I just didn't notice.

Nope, they did not. But then they are tools and fools with no self volition.
 
Nope, I've seen it for myself - Vietnam is pretty peaceful these days



- its a one-party state (that party is the Communist Party of Vietnam)

- there are Communist slogans on every street, every road and on many buildings

- there is a cult-like following for former leader, President Ho Chi Minh

- there are busts and portraits of Ho Chi Minh in every school and public building.
Nazism is a form of right wing ideology but it would be wrong to say all right wing ideologies are Nazism, just as it would be wrong to say all communist ideologies are (for example) Stalinist. I would say someone who claims to be a Stalinist or supports Stalinism is of course someone who is for killing fellow citizens just like someone who claims to be a Nazi does, and I have no issue with them not being allowed to advocate the killing of their fellow citizens.

Pesonally I am not bothered if someone claims their ideology is left or right, it is the ideology itself that people claim to be or follow that I judge. And I am very happy judging those who say they support an ideology that has an element which calls for the mass killing of me and many other of our fellow citizens as a terrible, evil ideology. And as a result of my judgement I am quite happy not to allow them the right of freedom of speech to promote such ideas.
 
There is nothing inherently violent about communism.

And yet, it is always and only implemented with violence. Must just be bad luck. Oh! Or it's not "true communism", how about that one? That was "stalinism" instead of "communism" (and Germany was under "hitlerism" not "nazism").

I don't think I can :rolleyes: enough.
 
Nope, I've seen it for myself - Vietnam is pretty peaceful these days

- its a one-party state (that party is the Communist Party of Vietnam)
- there are Communist slogans on every street, every road and on many buildings
- there is a cult-like following for former leader, President Ho Chi Minh
- there are busts and portraits of Ho Chi Minh in every school and public building.

Funny how peaceful things can be after you kill all your enemies.
 
And yet, it is always and only implemented with violence. Must just be bad luck. Oh! Or it's not "true communism", how about that one? That was "stalinism" instead of "communism" (and Germany was under "hitlerism" not "nazism").

I don't think I can :rolleyes: enough.

Keep rolling your eyes, then. I'm not wrong.
 
Nope, I've seen it for myself - Vietnam is pretty peaceful these days

- its a one-party state (that party is the Communist Party of Vietnam)
- there are Communist slogans on every street, every road and on many buildings
- there is a cult-like following for former leader, President Ho Chi Minh
- there are busts and portraits of Ho Chi Minh in every school and public building.

Replace "Vietnam" with "America", and "Ho Chi Minh" with "Donald Trump", and you have a pretty good recipe for peace and harmony in the US. After the bloody civil war and the political purges, of course. But hey, Vietnam is pretty peaceful these days, so we know the method works.
 
Does anyone think that Nazism is not inherently violent and it doesn't call for the killing of vast numbers of us (us meaning fellow citizens)?
 
This may explain some of the discussion here:

A substantial number of the survey’s respondents were unaware of basic facts about the Holocaust. Forty-one percent did not know what Auschwitz was. Nearly one-third of respondents (31 percent) believed that less than 2 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust; the actual number is closer to 6 million. Only 37 percent of people were able to identify Poland as a country where the Holocaust occurred, even though at least 3 million Jewish citizens of Poland were murdered during WWII.
Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...-their-knowledge-holocaust-history-180968783/

Knowledge about communism is probably even scarcer.
 
Does anyone think that Nazism is not inherently violent and it doesn't call for the killing of vast numbers of us (us meaning fellow citizens)?

I think Zig is correct that both Nazism and Communism are inherently violent.
 
It is quite apparent that you not only don't judge people by what they do and what they say you do not even listen to what they say. Since you are not open to facts and evidence it is rather pointless to continue our discussion.
Well that's the pot calling the kettle black. I say that the evils of Nazism are beside the point and your response is that Nazism is evil. The rest of you imaginary response is equally that of somebody who is so full of their own soapbox that they have not read a word that I have posted.

Maybe you should act on Stout's suggestion and ban Nazi sympathizers from this forum. After all, why expose extremist views to the rigours of critical thinking when you can just rush straight to judgement?
 
Pesonally I am not bothered if someone claims their ideology is left or right, it is the ideology itself that people claim to be or follow that I judge. And I am very happy judging those who say they support an ideology that has an element which calls for the mass killing of me and many other of our fellow citizens as a terrible, evil ideology. And as a result of my judgement I am quite happy not to allow them the right of freedom of speech to promote such ideas.

Does this mean you're in favor of banning Che Guevara shirts?
 
And yet, it is always and only implemented with violence. Must just be bad luck. Oh! Or it's not "true communism", how about that one? That was "stalinism" instead of "communism" (and Germany was under "hitlerism" not "nazism").
Hitlerism and Nazism are the same.
Nazism was specifically implemented in Germany between 1933 and 1945. Racism and genocide are necessary parts of nazism. It is also very warlike.

Communism, meanwhile, was tried in a number of countries at various times. Communism refers to a much greater variety of ideologies. Most of them were not particularly muderous.

Some communist regimes killed millions in pursuit of their ideology. For example, the cambodian, 'red Khmer' murdered about 25% of the countries population largely out of hatred for urban, liberal elites. The terror of the red Khmer was ended by an invasion by communist Vietnam.

The main thing that makes nazism seem especially horrible is that people were killed for things beyong their control. If you were descended from jews, they want to murder you and there is nothing you can do about it.
Even the most murderous communist regimes would try to kill you for things you might be able to control and allowed for redemption (at least officially).

Most of the death toll attributed to communism is due to famine. Famines were caused by ideologically driven mismanagement.

But mostly, the communist countries were just dictatorships. Like other dictatorships, or monarchies, they cracked down hard on dissidents but did not get millions killed.
 

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