Skeptic Ginger
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Facebook bans far right groups
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If I owned Facebook, I'd draw the line at actual, literal threats or incitement to violence.
Not figurative stuff like "We're going to murder you out on the football pitch next week"
I wouldn't worry about this open to interpretation stuff, like microaggressions ( or meddlesome priests ) and leave that to the aggrieved parties to work out like adults.
If Facebook is going to be favouring certain ideologies, then they might consider getting out of the political speech business altogether and limiting themselves to lighter fare, like cat videos and pictures of your breakfast.
Why would anyone thing SNL should be censored ? Isn't it something someone can simply not watch if they don't like it ?
Skeptic Ginger
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I believe they've been doing that and we still have issues so they've taken another step. There comes a point where you have to take a problem more seriously and some of Trump's hate groups are beyond that point.
It does not mean FB is banning or favoring ideologies.
This isn't about Trump's groups though, this is about the UK. Several political parties have been banned as well as any content supporting those parties, so yes, it's pretty much favouring ideologies,
It's their content promoting anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant rhetoric that got them the boot.
Probably close to zero.
smartcooky
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You do understand that ordinary Socialist Communism and Fascist Nazism are not left v right equivalences of scale. Nazism is much, much further right on the political scale than communism is on the left.....
Nazism is extreme, radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism. It is characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society.
Socialist Communism is not the equivalent extreme left wing ideology. If you are looking for a Nazi equivalent on the left (a violent form of communism) you're talking about Stalinism.
No it wasn't,.
Skeptic Ginger
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It's my understanding the hard right turn complete with racism and bigotry is flaring in more countries than just Trump-land.
From my POV, anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant rhetoric is a huge red flag. I think FB is justified and I don't think it amounts to the thought police or a slippery slope.
psionl0
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And the gradient of the slope just got steeper.
Ziggurat
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There are no peaceful forms of communism. You're kidding yourself.
You may want to research Nazism.
Might this forum benefit from following Facebook's lead and prohibiting such sentiments ? This whole skeptic thing appears to have run it's course and there's really no benefit to allowing that kind of thinking on this forum.
On the upside, you can use that handy little graph to demonstrate that The Khymer Rouge, Chairman Mao and North Korea aren't so bad after all when you compare them to white people political structures.
You're right. Even when they pretend to be, they're secretly waging war on innocent U.S. American diplomats' ears and brains, violating not just international law but even the laws of physics!
psionl0
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There is no need. The evils or otherwise of Nazism is not the issue here.
The point is that there is no room for predigested thinking such as yours in a critical thinking forum. Merely being a Nazi sympathizer or supporter should not be sufficient grounds for criminalization of individuals. Guilt by association is the hallmark of totalitarianism.
Every individual needs to be judged by their actions or words. Declaring an intention to harm individuals or inciting harm to individuals merely on the basis of their race or creed needs to be condemned everywhere. And that is what you are guilty of.
Ah I see your several mistakes.
1) My views on Nazism were not "predigested" they follow from doing research and following the evidence.
2) I indeed do judge people on their actions or words, which is why when someone says they are a Nazi or support Nazism I know what they are refering to.
3) You don't judge people on their actions or words
4) You don't seem to have knowledge of what Nazism is - a good starting point would be the Wikipedia page and start to follow the many references.
Only a few contries, e.g. Germany (Vox), have criminalized Nazis or their sympathizers. They usually criminalize specific parts of Nazi ideology, e.g. Holocaust denial (Wikipedia).
Declaring that you are a Nazi is a declaration of your intention* to harm, e.g. Jews and/or black and brown-skinned people (and it its current form: Muslims). I haven't heard of a Nazi splitter group intent on doing whatever it can to help and support (or just leave alone) blacks and Jews.
* Or you may just be utterly ignorant of what being a Nazi is all about. In that case, you should be institutionalized for your own protection.
psionl0
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That statement alone shows that everything I posted went straight over your head. That is not unusual when somebody is a slave to blind prejudice.
ftfy.
