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acbytesla said:
He wasn't just a guy with a mop. He was a needed translator. To say that someone would be fired for attempting to find a needed translator is risible.
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Do you not know how HIPAA works? You have to sign contracts to abide by it. Leaving a computer unlocked can get you fired. Leaving a pile of papers where other people could get to them can get you fired. Letting non employees into an area where patient data is exposed can get you fired. It's taken seriously by every decent provider.

Who do in fact have access to translators when needed, or if they really don't have one they'd make the volunteer wandering translator sign HIPAA agreement first. Meaning he'd be criminally and civilly liable for HIPAA violations himself. Any employee acting on their own to grab a translator without going through the proper process certainly warrants firing. And they'd have had to have known that, because HIPAA annual training is a requirement for provider staff bound by HIPAA.
 
I'm not saying that the employee who found Translator Pete should be fired. I'm saying it's a fascinating scenario, since HIPAA is serious business, and other people in similar situations could - should - be fired for this kind of thing.

Whether or not anyone in the hospital should get fired for bringing in an outside translator depends entirely on what kind of HIPAA regulations are in place for this kind of thing, and whether the people who made the decision complied with both the regulations and the rules of their workplace regarding such things.

Mostly I'm just surprised that it was allowed in the first place.

And a little bemused that it actually happened.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Do you not know how HIPAA works? You have to sign contracts to abide by it. Leaving a computer unlocked can get you fired. Leaving a pile of papers where other people could get to them can get you fired. Letting non employees into an area where patient data is exposed can get you fired. It's taken seriously by every decent provider.

Who do in fact have access to translators when needed, or if they really don't have one they'd make the volunteer wandering translator sign HIPAA agreement first. Meaning he'd be criminally and civilly liable for HIPAA violations himself. Any employee acting on their own to grab a translator without going through the proper process certainly warrants firing. And they'd have had to have known that, because HIPAA annual training is a requirement for provider staff bound by HIPAA.
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So? Your assuming the mayor volunteering his services couldn't sign a HIPPA agreement. Or agree to sign one if time was important. To assume there are translators available for every language is risible.
 
theprestige said:
I'm not saying that the employee who found Translator Pete should be fired. I'm saying it's a fascinating scenario, since HIPAA is serious business, and other people in similar situations could - should - be fired for this kind of thing.

Whether or not anyone in the hospital should get fired for bringing in an outside translator depends entirely on what kind of HIPAA regulations are in place for this kind of thing, and whether the people who made the decision complied with both the regulations and the rules of their workplace regarding such things.

Mostly I'm just surprised that it was allowed in the first place.

And a little bemused that it actually happened.
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Did he actually serve as a translator or merely volunteer? I think if he was the only one available to translate, he would be pressed to serve. I think it would be far uglier to have a patient die because you refused the services of a volunteer translator.
 
theprestige said:
I'm not saying that the employee who found Translator Pete should be fired. I'm saying it's a fascinating scenario, since HIPAA is serious business, and other people in similar situations could - should - be fired for this kind of thing.

Whether or not anyone in the hospital should get fired for bringing in an outside translator depends entirely on what kind of HIPAA regulations are in place for this kind of thing, and whether the people who made the decision complied with both the regulations and the rules of their workplace regarding such things.

Mostly I'm just surprised that it was allowed in the first place.

And a little bemused that it actually happened.
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Agree Completely.

As Tragic Monkey points out, HIPAA regulations are not very flexible. And I think that is a good thing, overall.
 
acbytesla said:
Did he actually serve as a translator or merely volunteer? I think if he was the only one available to translate, he would be pressed to serve. I think it would be far uglier to have a patient die because you refused the services of a volunteer translator.
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Healthcare providers have set procedures for emergencies, including inability to communicate due to language barrier. If employees don't follow the set procedure they open the provider to liability and the patient to risk. Employees in any industry who circumvent established emergency procedures can expect firing.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Healthcare providers have set procedures for emergencies, including inability to communicate due to language barrier. If employees don't follow the set procedure they open the provider to liability and the patient to risk. Employees in any industry who circumvent established emergency procedures can expect firing.
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You can't care for people if you are closed down because you are sued into Oblivion.

But the family seems happy rather than litigious.
 
TragicMonkey said:
Healthcare providers have set procedures for emergencies, including inability to communicate due to language barrier. If employees don't follow the set procedure they open the provider to liability and the patient to risk. Employees in any industry who circumvent established emergency procedures can expect firing.
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Most healthcare organizations have translators, whether on site, via phone, or tele communication workstations like Marti.

It's pretty unlikely all methods would be inaccessible at the same time. However, if they were, and there was an immediate and emergency need such that it's either grab someone nearby or the patient dies then I can understand doing it despite potential consequences. But outside that very limited and unlikely scenario doing that would be asking to get fired.
 
The_Animus said:
Most healthcare organizations have translators, whether on site, via phone, or tele communication workstations like Marti.

It's pretty unlikely all methods would be inaccessible at the same time. However, if they were, and there was an immediate and emergency need such that it's either grab someone nearby or the patient dies then I can understand doing it despite potential consequences. But outside that very limited and unlikely scenario doing that would be asking to get fired.
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It doesn't seem as unlikely as you portray it. There is a limit to the number of foreign language speakers one can have available.
 
acbytesla said:
It doesn't seem as unlikely as you portray it. There is a limit to the number of foreign language speakers one can have available.
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I'm no expert on this so maybe someone can correct me if wrong.

Many places contract with a service so they'll have a pool of foreign language speakers and then whichever one is available you get similar to calling into a company customer service center. But they also have some that are specifically on standby for emergency situations where they are needed immediately. This helps reduce such instances.
 
The_Animus said:
I'm no expert on this so maybe someone can correct me if wrong.

Many places contract with a service so they'll have a pool of foreign language speakers and then whichever one is available you get similar to calling into a company customer service center. But they also have some that are specifically on standby for emergency situations where they are needed immediately. This helps reduce such instances.
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There are translation services available. I used them in my job. I used them a lot for dealing with China and Latin America. But they are a crapshoot. Some translators simply are not as good as others.
 
If comments on social media are anything to go by, Andrew Yang is actually a closet Libertarian Trojan Horse masking as a progressive and with a strong alt-right white angry male following.
 
Mayor Pete is now in third place in Iowa:

In Emerson’s second poll of the Iowa caucus, former Vice President Joe Biden narrowly leads the Democratic field with 25%, followed by Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders at 24%. Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana has surged to 11%. Senator Kamala Harris of California follows with 10% - the only other candidate to clear double digits in Iowa. Data was collected between March 21-24, and the Democratic caucus ballot test had a margin of error +/- 6.2%.

Spencer Kimball, Director of the Emerson Poll concludes that “the biggest surprise in this poll is Mayor Pete, last week we saw him inching up in our national poll, and now he’s in double digits in Iowa, America is going to be asking who is ‘Mayor Pete’?” In Emerson’s January Iowa poll, prior to many candidates’ announcements, Biden led with 29%, followed by Harris,who had made her announcement just prior to the poll, at 18%, and Sanders, who had not yet formally declared, at 15%. Mayor Pete Buttigieg was polling at 0%.
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That's a pretty remarkable jump, and indicates that Buttigieg is a good retail campaigner.
 
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