horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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Jussie Smollett Case: Grand Jury Returns 16 Counts Against ‘Empire’ Actor




https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/03/08/jussie-smollett-grand-jury-indictment/

Each of the Empire actor’s new charges carries a possible sentence of probation to four years in prison, but ABC Eyewitness News reports that experts believe Smollett will likely avoid jail time by striking a plea deal.

Experts believe there will be no jail time. It's conceivable. We'll see. I think it's actually pretty rare for people who falsely report crimes to be sent to jail, so that wouldn't actually be unusual for a case like this.
 
Experts believe there will be no jail time. It's conceivable. We'll see. I think it's actually pretty rare for people who falsely report crimes to be sent to jail, so that wouldn't actually be unusual for a case like this.
With 17 felony charges it looks like Chicago is going after Smollett in a fierce way. A typical false report perp might get one count and maybe not even a felony count.

Chicago seems to want to give Smollett a real beating, not a fake one. Seventeen felonies and then no jail?
 
With 17 felony charges it looks like Chicago is going after Smollett in a fierce way. A typical false report perp might get one count and maybe not even a felony count.

Chicago seems to want to give Smollett a real beating, not a fake one. Seventeen felonies and then no jail?


Seems like each lie he told is being counted as a separate incident. We'll see how that goes.

I'd say the letter is the best chance of him seeing any real jail time, if they can tie it to him. I'll wager (any takers?) that they will find that he is responsible for the letter AND charge him for it. That's a federal crime. He's been so stupid there's no reason to assume he covered his tracks with the letter and I can't see the feds taking this lightly.
 
What a despicable post. Please, more honesty from you.

Don't like it? It's a fair point, and I'm unconcerned with what you somehow find "despicable".

If CPD has serious points against Smollett, they can present it at trial.
 
16 felonies? Seems excessive.

In fact, it seems like a horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett.

I'm going with the overcharge and try to get a confession as part of the plea deal.

If they force them to do a trial and convict, he will likely do some jail time.
 
ABC 7 Chicago said:
Experts believe it is likely he will strike a plea deal and potentially not spend time in prison.
I believe that the experts are wrong here. Not because a plea deal isn't the smart move. Instead because these experts either don't acknowledge or don't understand Smollett's mental illness.

The writing is on the wall for there to be no plea deal. Geragos will be fighting this until Smollett has no money left. That's because Smollett will not have it any other way. That's because Smollett insists that he is innocent of the charges. All of them. Here is the writing on the wall from just last night...

Attorney Mark Geragos said:
The fact of an indictment is not unexpected. We knew that there is no way they would expose their evidence to a public airing and subject their witnesses to cross-examination.

What is unexpected however, is the prosecutorial overkill in charging 16 separate counts against Jussie. This redundant and vindictive indictment is nothing more than a desperate attempt to make headlines in order to distract from the internal investigation launched to investigate the outrageous leaking of false information by the Chicago Police Department and the shameless and illegal invasion of Jussie's privacy in tampering with his medical records.

Jussie adamantly maintains his innocence even if law enforcement has robbed him of that presumption.


https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollett-indicted-on-16-felony-counts-by-grand-jury/5177586
 
I believe that the experts are wrong here. Not because a plea deal isn't the smart move. Instead because these experts either don't acknowledge or don't understand Smollett's mental illness.

The writing is on the wall for there to be no plea deal. Geragos will be fighting this until Smollett has no money left. That's because Smollett will not have it any other way. That's because Smollett insists that he is innocent of the charges. All of them. Here is the writing on the wall from just last night...




https://abc7chicago.com/jussie-smollett-indicted-on-16-felony-counts-by-grand-jury/5177586
I dunno. I figure Geragos is just spamming the appropriate lawyer rhetoric for this point in his client's defense. I don't think it really tells us much about Smollett's state of mind or commitment to the narrative.

The most interesting thing is his insinuation that Smollett had real injuries, but the hospital staff conspired to doctor his medical records and undermine his claim.
 
I don't think it really tells us much about Smollett's state of mind or commitment to the narrative.
Every time he opens his mouth he insists that he is completely innocent. This is reported everywhere and is most notable from his Good Morning America interview and his appearances on the set of Empire.

So yeah, we know his state of mind and his commitment to his own narrative.

I could be wrong about my prediction of no plea dealing, but I have laid out my reasoning. The primary mental illness is narcissistic personality disorder.
 
Every time he opens his mouth he insists that he is completely innocent. This is reported everywhere and is most notable from his Good Morning America interview and his appearances on the set of Empire.

So yeah, we know his state of mind and his commitment to his own narrative.

I could be wrong about my prediction of no plea dealing, but I have laid out my reasoning. The primary mental illness is narcissistic personality disorder.

Fair enough. Smollett's own statements are pretty damning. I think his lawyer's statements are just typical lawyering.
 
I think that if Smollett had said to Geragos, "Let's aim for a plea deal", or had said "Yeah Mark, I see what you are saying and agree we should do a plea deal" then I think the statement would read differently or maybe no statement at all.

Smollett wants the world to hear that he is fully innocent of all the charges, and he is using his lawyer to say the words.
 
Every time he opens his mouth he insists that he is completely innocent. This is reported everywhere and is most notable from his Good Morning America interview and his appearances on the set of Empire.



So yeah, we know his state of mind and his commitment to his own narrative.



I could be wrong about my prediction of no plea dealing, but I have laid out my reasoning. The primary mental illness is narcissistic personality disorder.

Yes, let’s play internet doctor! You don’t need a mental illness diagnosis to make your point. It isn’t helpful. It’s enough to simply point out his behavior and base your reasoning in that.


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Yes, let’s play internet doctor! You don’t need a mental illness diagnosis to make your point. It isn’t helpful.
And it isn't harmful. Remember that we are on the Internet.

I am playing internet doctor and you are playing internet life coach.
 

If they found that people with no medical justification looked at the records (likely simple searches of computer files), there's nothing surprising or insane. This kind of thing can happen at any facility where someone famous shows up, either because of general curiosity or because someone wants to sell the information.

I've been working with computerized medical records for 30-odd years, and the thing is that once someone has access to patient information they're permitted to access any patient's information because on a given day any provider in a hospital may work with any patient. The understanding - and the law - is that you will never call up information that you don't actually need. Violating that principle calls for a draconian response, up to even criminal charges.
 
Fair enough. Smollett's own statements are pretty damning. I think his lawyer's statements are just typical lawyering.


I don't have much faith in his attorney. Scott Peterson I'm sure would agree, but Geragos has spent many years doing talking-head spots on TV. Again, I think he's not going to get the outcome he hopes for.
 
If they found that people with no medical justification looked at the records (likely simple searches of computer files), there's nothing surprising or insane. This kind of thing can happen at any facility where someone famous shows up, either because of general curiosity or because someone wants to sell the information.

I've been working with computerized medical records for 30-odd years, and the thing is that once someone has access to patient information they're permitted to access any patient's information because on a given day any provider in a hospital may work with any patient. The understanding - and the law - is that you will never call up information that you don't actually need. Violating that principle calls for a draconian response, up to even criminal charges.
The insanity comes from firing more than 60 people. You need to stop it cold long before you get to that number. The Director of Human Resources needs to be replaced. Totally insane.
 
The insanity comes from firing more than 60 people. You need to stop it cold long before you get to that number. The Director of Human Resources needs to be replaced. Totally insane.

Access logs are reviewed at need. You wouldn't find out that a patient's files are being accessed illicitly until you had reason to look. As for the head of HR getting sacked, that would be actually insane unless s/he knowingly hired people with a history of such illicit access.
 
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