Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony

acbytesla said:
This from the guy who had no issue with multi-year investigations into Ben Ghazzi and Hillary Clinton deleting emails. Can someone say "hypocrisy"?

Performing oversight is not a witch hunt. It's just that it appears as if the President has broken campaign finance laws, insurance and or tax fraud/evasion, ran a fraudulent charity as well as conspired with a foreign power to defraud the United States.

Requesting documents is SOP. Perhaps the committee will find nothing. :rolleyes:

But the good news is we will finally get to see those tax returns Trump promised to release. I mean I know you believe in transparency.
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Great posting and thanks much.
 
There's inherent things built into the most basic structure of our government to keep the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches from having too much power by giving each of them some level of check against the other two (with the press and "the people" in there as well in certain contexts)

There is nothing built into the government to allow the Republican Party to check the power of the Democratic Party or vice-versa, because political parties are not branches or pillars of government no matter how much people want them to be.

I'm getting the strong impression that some people think there either is or should be "a check and balance" between the parties which is all kinds of wrong and makes no kind of sense.
 
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acbytesla said:
Sure it is. POTUS isn't special or above the law.
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Whether you think the president is special or not does not matter as hypocrisy would be viewpoint dependent. If the person does think they are special, then their view has two key elements.
 
The Big Dog said:
you think a completely fallacious and actually hypocritical tu quoque is a "great post"?

Delightful
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One of these days you'll actually learn about what constitutes a fallacy. Pointing out hypocrisy is in itself not a tu quoque fallacy.

Note to TBD, I pointed out that Congress has an oversight responsibility and that it appears as if Trump and or the people around him committed insurance and tax fraud, ran a fraudulent charity, conspired with a foreign power, broke campaign finance laws. And I forgot to post, violated the Emoluments clause, committed money laundering, not to mention numerous counts of obstruction of justice. (How is this a fallacy?....I'll give you a hint. It's not.)

And EVEN if Trump committed no crimes, it would still be important for Congress to investigate foreign interference in our elections.
 
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BobTheCoward said:
Whether you think the president is special or not does not matter as hypocrisy would be viewpoint dependent. If the person does think they are special, then their view has two key elements.
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Who.... the... hell... cares?

I'm going to blow some minds here but "Hypocrisy" isn't a thing in law and politics.

If you murder your neighbor but the Judge drinks too much and one of the jurors beats his wife.... you still murdered your neighbor.

Guilt does not go away because you can find something the person accusing/judging you did wrong.

"You're a hypocrite, therefore I win" exists in one place and one place only, internet discussions.
 
Cabbage said:
Actually, if you reread it carefully you'll see Crossbow was referring to acbytesla's post, not one of yours.
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It's like when the press or the Democrats make a reference to "racism" or "hatred" and Trump just assumes they are talking about him even though they never said his name.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Who.... the... hell... cares?

I'm going to blow some minds here but "Hypocrisy" isn't a thing in law and politics.

If you murder your neighbor but the Judge drinks too much and one of the jurors beats his wife.... you still murdered your neighbor.

Guilt does not go away because you can find something the person accusing/judging you did wrong.

"You're a hypocrite, therefore I win" exists in one place and one place only, internet discussions.
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Info for TBD, What is highlighted is a an actual "fallacy".

I only point out the hypocrisy as an amusing side bar. It's amusing to hear your silly arguments and faux outrage about investigating serious crimes committed by Trump when you were perfectly fine with endlessly investigating Hillary Clinton for anything and for any reason.
 
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