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US Citizen Otto Warmbier, returned from North Korea, has died

President Trump; GQ article from 2018

"Some really bad things happened to Otto — some really really bad things. But he tells me that he didn't know about it and I will take him at his word," Trump said, referring to the North Korean dictator. NBC.

There was also a 2018 GQ article on this incident, in which Doug Bock Clark suggested that Mr. Warmbier tried to commit suicide. "Until now, the next assumption about Otto's fate was that he had suffered severe brain damage by “April,” as the first brain scan sent back with his body was time-stamped. Speculation suggested that the tragedy might have occurred at a special labor camp for foreigners, where at least three Americans have performed their hard-labor sentences. There they were forced to plant soybeans or make bricks while living in spartan conditions, though, as Bae wrote, “Compared to the average North Korean serving time in a labor camp, I was in a four-star resort.” Certainly, it would have been more likely for any type of tragedy—over-exertion under a furnace sun, a work accident, or even directed beatings—to occur in that barbed-wire-enclosed valley a few miles outside Pyongyang. But Otto almost certainly never made it to the labor camp.
“The staff at Friendship Hospital said they received Otto the morning after the trial and that when he came in he was unresponsive,” Dr. Flueckiger told me. “They had to resuscitate him, then give him oxygen and put him on a ventilator, or he would die.” As Yun, the negotiator who helped free Otto, said, “The doctors were clear that he had been brought to the hospital within a day of his trial, and that he had been in that same room until I saw him.”

Even if this were true, North Korea would still be to blame.
 
What is it with President Trump that he makes excuses for North Korea and Russia.

It's pretty obvious that he identifies with dictators and would be one himself if he could.


The charitable interpretation is that he sees flattery as the way to solve the North Korea problem. All Kim really needs is to have his ego stroked and then he'll play nice.
 
The charitable interpretation is that he sees flattery as the way to solve the North Korea problem. All Kim really needs is to have his ego stroked and then he'll play nice.


Yeah, I'm sure that's what Donnie Boi is doing. Right.
 
Yeah, I'm sure that's what Donnie Boi is doing. Right.

It's he standard SOP with ruthless dictators,and I don's see him changing it.
Unless you don't consider Kim to be a ruthless dictator....
I just don't see Donnie doing a 180 and going back to being a hawk on North Korea. That would be to admit he was wrong, and he hates that above all else.
 
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It's he standard SOP with ruthless dictators,and I don's see him changing it.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Donnie Boi, being the feckless crypto-fascist oaf that he is, absolutely loves these "strong men" and wishes he could be just like them.

There is no strategy here, just Lil' Don rolling over and showing his belly like the dumb dog he is. I agree with you.
 
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Yes the Saffron Don has always been, shall we say, "despot-curious" from the very beginning.
 
True. All Kim's team needed to do was praise the Apprentice, say Trump should have won an Emmy and agree he is the smartest bestest guy in the world and lo and behold he leaves you alone to do what you want and cancels any military training exercises you want canceled.
 
A 2 million dollar medical bill

Link "North Korea in 2017 reportedly issued a $2 million bill to the U.S. for the hospital care of American Otto Warmbier, who was in a coma when he was returned to the U.S. and died without regaining consciousness."
 
Link "North Korea in 2017 reportedly issued a $2 million bill to the U.S. for the hospital care of American Otto Warmbier, who was in a coma when he was returned to the U.S. and died without regaining consciousness."

Of course remember that a Trump never pays his debts so really the only thing is that they thought that we would honor such a bill.
 

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