Michael Cohen's Congressional testimony

The Big Dog said:
Oh dear, you did not read the information, or you did not understand it?

I will assume it is the later. You see Dr. Keith, the first thing you have to understand is that the deep state can convict people for lying to the government about things that are totally legal.

Let me give you a super simple example. Say Donald trump got his car fixed on saturday, but Michael Cohen said he got it fixed on friday. the deep state can and will prosecute targets of ratsistance for "lying" about thing that are totally legal in order to co-opt them into doing their sleazy business.

That is the case here, Cohen admitted lying about Trump doing absolutely legal things.

That is why we call them process crimes, the deep state had nothing on Trump so they ginned up some fake charges against Cohen to go along with the real actual crimes Cohen and his wife committed and got him to roll over like a rat.

I hope this helps
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Maybe this will help: Trump was under investigation for colluding with Russia. He was colluding with Russia to build a hotel in Moscow and Cohen said he wasn't. For a perjury charge, it has to be a lie about a material fact.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh dear, did they use "personal attacks' like pointing out that Cohen is a convicted felon?

Oh dear, that must have been awful for him.

:rolleyes:
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They and you use personal attacks instead of addressing his testimony and evidence. I know you have a hard time recognizing arguments and fallacies, but that's an actual ad hominem.
 
One-time associate of a a Republican politician Michael Schmowen, a person who has admitted to lying to Congress in the past, fixes himself a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. He then eats the sandwich. A short time later someone asks Mr. Schmowen if he has ever eaten a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, to which he replies that he had.

Republicans: He’s a liar!
 
If the Deep State had Cohen and his wife on actual crimes, why did they need to invent process crimes in order to have leverage over him?
 
The Big Dog said:
Avid readers of this thread will note my expert summary of many of the facts in this attached document. This is a criminal referral to the DoJ outlining many of Cohen's montrous lies and outright whoppers he told yesterday:

NEW: @Jim_Jordan & @RepMarkMeadows have sent a letter to DOJ referring Michael Cohen "for perjury and knowingly making false statements before the Committee at yesterday's hearing."

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And those two Congressmen are lying.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
If the Deep State had Cohen and his wife on actual crimes, why did they need to invent process crimes in order to have leverage over him?
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I did not say they invented them. butdeep state wanted to set up the predicate for a coup against Our President of course. They want to avoid this happening:

Deep state: hey trump you committed "crimes" through Cohen
GP: No I didn't and you didn't even charge Cohen with that, so give America a break
DS: Curses.

They had Cohen and his wife on real charges, so he rolled over on the process "crimes' so they didn't turn his wife into chained heat.
 
The Big Dog said:
I did not say they invented them. butdeep state wanted to set up the predicate for a coup against Our President of course. They want to avoid this happening:

Deep state: hey trump you committed "crimes" through Cohen
GP: No I didn't and you didn't even charge Cohen with that, so give America a break
DS: Curses.

They had Cohen and his wife on real charges, so he rolled over on the process "crimes' so they didn't turn his wife into chained heat.
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Ummmm ....

This is getting really odd.

Earlier you were talking about have "skin as thick as the dick of a rhino" and now you are talking about the wife of Cohen being "chained heat" as well as demonstrating very poor writing skills.

So are you feeling all right?
 
Crossbow said:
Ummmm ....

This is getting really odd.

Earlier you were talking about have "skin as thick as the dick of a rhino" and now you are talking about the wife of Cohen being "chained heat" as well as demonstrating very poor writing skills.

So are you feeling all right?
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You never heard of the expression chained heat?

Huh.
 
The Big Dog said:
Avid readers of this thread will note my expert summary of many of the facts in this attached document. This is a criminal referral to the DoJ outlining many of Cohen's montrous lies and outright whoppers he told yesterday:

NEW: @Jim_Jordan & @RepMarkMeadows have sent a letter to DOJ referring Michael Cohen "for perjury and knowingly making false statements before the Committee at yesterday's hearing."
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Ok, I guess the first question is, how exactly would those congressmen actually know when Cohen was lying? After all, the republicans spent so much time grandstanding and monologuing that I'm surprised they even paid attention to any of Cohen's testimony.

Secondly, why exactly do they think that's useful or relevant?

Do they honestly think nobody at the DOJ involved with the case was watching the hearings? That they wouldn't be smart enough to recognize if/when Cohen was lying?

So you have a claim by 2 republican congress-critters, one of whom has a shady past regarding sexual allegations, the other may have lied about his academic credentials, making demands that the DOJ should act.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan_(American_politician)#Ohio_State_University_abuse_scandal

https://www.citizen-times.com/story...rk-meadows-lie-his-college-degree/2872646002/
 
Since when do the reps get to bring in witnesses who stand in the back, e.g. the Trump employee? I don't recall seeing that before.
 
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