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The Trump Presidency 13: The (James) Baker's Dozen

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BobTheCoward said:
I'm saying all of that is true. What I'm saying is the fact he did that does not support the explanation "to cover up collusion" more than any other possible reason.
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Present a better reason. Otherwise stop pretending you have a point.
 
Just in case anyone here thinks that Republican senators are starting to break with Trump....

From: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/13/18220542/senate-rules-committee-trump-nominees
Senate Republicans want to change the rules so they can push through more of Trump’s judicial and administrative nominees...

The rule changes involve reducing the time that a particular nominee can be discussed.

So for all the claims that "The shutdown vote shows Republicans are breaking with Trump"... no, they aren't. In fact they are trying to enable him to do more damage. Much, much more damage.
 
Segnosaur said:
Just in case anyone here thinks that Republican senators are starting to break with Trump....

From: https://www.vox.com/2019/2/13/18220542/senate-rules-committee-trump-nominees
Senate Republicans want to change the rules so they can push through more of Trump’s judicial and administrative nominees...

The rule changes involve reducing the time that a particular nominee can be discussed.

So for all the claims that "The shutdown vote shows Republicans are breaking with Trump"... no, they aren't. In fact they are trying to enable him to do more damage. Much, much more damage.
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You think Trump is making those judicial nominees? He put Pence in charge of that. Yes, Trump may be making the final decision...maybe. But they are pulling from the Federalist list.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Good point. Bad evidence is still evidence.
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It does look like a number of folks want to make the argument that only the direct indictments count as evidence. This is a distinctly dishonest position for a number of reasons, not least because of the fact that the relatively safe bet is that any indictments directly dealing with to collusion are likely to drop, all at once, when that part of the investigation is considered finished. There's a LOT of more direct evidence in the public domain, as it is. There's also the note that the people Trump picked have pointedly held the position that Trump cannot be indicted because he's the President and unindicted people should be left out of what's publicly released, which makes relying on that as a basis very shaky there, too.
 
Looks as if Donnie is going to sign the budget...at least at this minute. He has gotten sort of an OK from President Limbaugh, but President Coulter is yet to be heard from.
 
Belz... said:
Huh. Turns out that Trump directs the Tennessee Valley Authority to use a coal plant operated by Asshat Murray, who donated 300k to Trump's inaugural campaign way after the end of the festivities.

Maybe Trump's whole plan is to destroy the US government. Far-right conservatives have been wanting to crush the size of government for decades. Discrediting the government by blatant corruption might help do that.
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Which fits in well with Putin's plans to discredit Democracy as well....
 
Aridas said:
It does look like a number of folks want to make the argument that only the direct indictments count as evidence.
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It's the whole "In Mens Rea" thing the Miscarriage of Justice fandom has gotten all up in their panties about, this hyper-focus on something not being a crime unless you can prove in their heart of hearts the 100% complete intent of committing the crime.

So yeah some people are going to yell foul until we get a video of Trump signing a notarized document where he sells the US to Russia.
 
Belz... said:
You wouldn't be suggesting that there's some sort of... link, or... connection.. a collusion, if you will, between the two?
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SEMANTICS! *Flips the table over*

Trump ordered a hamburger with cheese, he did NOT order a cheeseburger.
 
Doubt said:
That job had not started yet
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Yes it had. Contacts with foreign governments are perfectly normal during the transition period before inauguration.

and he was still required to report contacts before and after it did start.
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He didn't get in legal trouble for not reporting contacts.

Lying after the fact is still a crime.
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True. But it still doesn't constitute collaboration with the Russians. It especially doesn't constitute collaboration with the Russians to affect the election because, you know, that whole no time travel thing.
 
Cabbage said:
So? Are you unfamiliar with how plea bargains work?
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Of course they mean that retroactively all the other crimes one committed were totally legal, like when he was planning the kidnapping of a US resident on behalf of a foreign power, totally legal.
 
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The Gallup Poll just announced that 69% of our great citizens expect their finances to improve next year, a 16 year high. Nice!

Today, it was my great honor to address the @MjrCitiesChiefs Association and @MCSheriffs Conference in Washington, D.C. We will never forget your service, and we will never, ever let you down! We love you, and we thank God for you each and every day.
 
Ziggurat said:
No one in the administration has been indicted, let alone convicted, of any collusion with the Russians.
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When it comes to members of an administration or campaign pleading guilty to crimes, is the current count above average for the first two years?
 
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