horrifying attack on Jussie Smollett

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Mumbles said:
Another example for my theory that many people have no idea what racism is.

In any event, I'll take that to mean "the usual white supremacists", so I'll await word from an actual investigation.
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It won't make any difference. Even if Smollett is found to have lied, tried, convicted and jailed, you will still claim everybody who doubted him prior to the verdict being announced is a white supremacist (even if they're black).
 
Hungry81 said:
I think the evidence against the attack as reported now is fairly strong.
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The thing is, the evidence *for* the attack was never even weak. For whatever reason, Travis, Mumbles, MikeG and others decided to ignore the flaws in Smollet's narrative, and cry racism on anyone who didn't ignore those flaws.
 
Mumbles said:
Another example for my theory that many people have no idea what racism is.

In any event, I'll take that to mean "the usual white supremacists", so I'll await word from an actual investigation.
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Says the poster asserting that people who do not buy Jussie’s ridiculous story are white supremists

Oh well race grifting is a full time occupation.
 
Hungry81 said:
I think the evidence against the attack as reported now is fairly strong.


No footage of the attack.
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This has weight only depending on how much one might realistically expect the attack to be captured. Most of the counter-theories would also require something to happen on camera which also hasn't been found- Smollett entering and leaving some other building to get beaten up by a hookup, Smollett renting a crashing a scooter.

The lack of useful video makes an attack a little harder to buy, but it has the same effect on most alternatives in this thread.

Some here have taken to saying there is only one minute of time unaccounted for in video. I may have missed a source for this, but I would be surprised if official police sources made such a detailed public announcement about a case in progress. Feel free to correct me if I missed it though. What I suspect is that this window is taken from a particular interpretation of some "leaked" comment. Which deserves at least a grain of salt.


plus the report of the attack has been revised and weakened a couple of times.
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It looks like most sources were cribbing off TMZ. There is no statement on record from Smollett that he had broken ribs. Media making mistakes doesn't say much about the credibility of Smollett.

plus the failure to provide phone records.
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That's been discussed a number of times. Even a couple folks in the "Smollett is obviously lying" camp can see some good reasons for that.



Now its reported that he was reluctant to report it to the police, which makes it sound like he painted himself into a corner when his friend called police, and instead of coming clean he doubled down
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"Makes it sound" is just your personal feeling. Not wanting to report it to the police is fully consistent with a black, gay guy's feelings about such a situation and with a famous person's concern that they might be attacked again in the public sphere, kinda like what we're seeing.
It's also not consistent with "This was a hoax for attention"

But thanks for associating me with white supremisists simply beacause I do not believe one likely lying far left hero doing his best to give credibility to the other side.
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I don't know what you think in your heart of hearts. But there are clearly a number of posters who are so strangely consistent with denouncing black people and liberal women as liars, it seems a bit strange to ignore. if you're not one of em, then good for you!
 
Cavemonster said:
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I don't know what you think in your heart of hearts. But there are clearly a number of posters who are so strangely consistent with denouncing black people and liberal women as liars, it seems a bit strange to ignore. if you're not one of em, then good for you!
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And this is how it works: post a bunch of very arguable "while black" threads, then denounce people who believe that the stories are not, or may not be accurate.

I think there are a number of posters here that are strangely consistent with pointing out what they believe to be racism every chance they get.

Someone called "mumbles" racist.
I don't think he's racist (sorry I know you're in the room too), though I wouldn't really know anyways. I know from the forum that he is a black man that has seen a lot of racist crap - of course. I have my own opinions, I suppose, and I don't often agree with him, but I would not call him a racist.

I think a lot of the adults have left the forum.
 
sadhatter said:
Canadian here as well, gonna call bs on the length of your walks. Might have felt like a half hour but it wasn't.

Pro tip, if someone insinuates being Canadian gives them child superpowers they are lying.
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It's didn't get that cold every day, even in Calgary, so it wasn't a daily occurance, but I used to walk up to Nose Hill park and wander around for 1-2 hours looking for deer, and on at least a few occasions that I remember it was below -30. I remember because no one else in my family wanted to join me for those walks.

I was probably wearing a toque, but I never wore a scarf. I also ran to school pretty often (because I was late) which took about 30 minutes. I never wore a hat to school, this I remember well because my hair had always frozen solid.
 
Anybody else a little creeped out that you can go for a sandwich at 2AM during a polar vortex, and virtually your every step is being recorded?
 
The Big Dog said:
Please recall also that the legend victim and his alleged witness have refused to turn over their phones.

I fully recognize that pointing this out makes me a white supremacist that is only spewing hatred
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I wonder what Mumbles would say if he interacted with an actual white supremacist, he seems to have set the bar pretty low.
 
Marcus said:
I wonder what Mumbles would say if he interacted with an actual white supremacist, he seems to have set the bar pretty low.
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The bar is the progressive definition of "white supremacist/racist", which is someone who's questioning the narrative of a leftist. See also "institutional racism" and the explanations on why people like Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Shelby Steele, Thomas Sowell, etc, aren't "real" black people.
 
Thermal said:
Anybody else a little creeped out that you can go for a sandwich at 2AM during a polar vortex, and virtually your every step is being recorded?
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Chicago's not London, yet, but the police have been using video surveillance more and more to help with the city's out of control crime rate.

According to the New York Times, Chicago is installing 30,000 cameras in the city to monitor for gunshots and other criminal activity.

New York Times

And yes, I agree it's very creepy, but on the other hand, as long as it's confined to public spaces, I don't think there's anything illegal about it.
 
Mumbles said:
Another example for my theory that many people have no idea what racism is.

In any event, I'll take that to mean "the usual white supremacists", so I'll await word from an actual investigation.
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ah, that's right. you can't be racist because you are black. only those you perceive as white (without any evidence whatsoever - kinda like this case) supremacists must be.
 
cmikes said:
The bar is the progressive definition of "white supremacist/racist", which is someone who's questioning the narrative of a leftist. See also "institutional racism" and the explanations on why people like Clarence Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Shelby Steele, Thomas Sowell, etc, aren't "real" black people.
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Whip said:
ah, that's right. you can't be racist because you are black. only those you perceive as white (without any evidence whatsoever - kinda like this case) supremacists must be.
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Two misses. I never said that any of the above "aren 't really black", although I do think that they're incorrect on several subjects.

(That sort of attack is particularly disgusting when used on Rice, who was friends with one of the girls killed in the Birmingham church bombing.)

And nope, I've denounced both the NOI and the Black Israelites as examples of black supremacists.

As for dealing with white supremacists - been there, done that. That's why I choose not to do so here, or elsewhere online.
 
Mumbles said:
As for dealing with white supremacists - been there, done that. That's why I choose not to do so here, or elsewhere online.
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yet you called anyone who doesn't believe the evidence-less attack happened 'white supremacists' thus attacking a whole race because you don't like other's opposite opinion. seems you don't know what 'white supremacy' is.
 
Mumbles said:
Two misses. I never said that any of the above "aren 't really black", although I do think that they're incorrect on several subjects.

(That sort of attack is particularly disgusting when used on Rice, who was friends with one of the girls killed in the Birmingham church bombing.)

And nope, I've denounced both the NOI and the Black Israelites as examples of black supremacists.

As for dealing with white supremacists - been there, done that. That's why I choose not to do so here, or elsewhere online.
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Yeah, y'all just accuse people of being white supremacists based on expressing extreme doubt that a spittle soaked anti-trump fanatic spewed out a nonsensical story about people recognizing a bit player on the street at 2:00 am and yelling out MAGA Country while he bravely fought off their "attacks"

Unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of ignoring race grifters on line or in real life.
 
Whip said:
yet you called anyone who doesn't believe the evidence-less attack happened 'white supremacists' thus attacking a whole race because you don't like other's opposite opinion. seems you don't know what 'white supremacy' is.
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I'm sure it's great for demonizing your opponents, calling then racists and white supremacists, the problem is what happens when you come across the real variety. Suddenly they are not so bad, just members of this broad category you have defined.
 
Whip said:
yet you called anyone who doesn't believe the evidence-less attack happened 'white supremacists' thus attacking a whole race because you don't like other's opposite opinion. seems you don't know what 'white supremacy' is.
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If you think that attacking "white supremacists" means that you're attacking a whole race, then you're the one who doesn't know what white supremacy is - with or without quotation marks. Do you also think that you criticize the whole sex if you call somebody a "male chauvinist"?
 
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