Mueller Investigation pt4

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WilliamSeger said:
You're digging the whole deeper. Why would the FBI want to "feed the maw of the insatiable grifter media" with video of them "using gestapo tactics?" Unless you are suggesting that someone in the FBI wanted to feed the maw of the insatiable right-wing grifter media with gestapo-FBI video, it doesn't make much sense.
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:eye-poppi

Because that was what CNN wanted.
 
The Big Dog said:
Done. Now Y’all get back to cleverly trying mock my forum name, fiendishly clever in its intricacies indeed.

Ya see folks, my forum name is the big dog and dr. Keith is making derisive references to fetch, squirels, get the ball, because it is “clever” to do so.

The thing about is? The big dog house is set up rent free.

Drops mic
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Is it as clever as calling a Native America fella you don't know "Chief Lying Wolf"? Asking for a friend that was posting in another thread. Also, don't know why you're dropping your mic, unless you're having some physical issues. You should pick that thing back up cause you're just going to all caps holler into it in a few pages anyway.

Minoosh said:
And he's already out?

This makes me wonder if the arrest wasn't somewhat for show. As in, come down hard on him in order to send a message to still other associates.

Him being out already makes that seem slightly weird though.

ETA: I am not really very well-informed about the whole situation.
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That's not surprising at all. He has unlimited resources and the arrest at the house might have been a means to search the house as well (though I have no evidence or proof to back that up). Sometimes cops will wait for people to get in their cars to search that, etc.

In all honesty though, unless it's violent there will always be the option to post bond. That a multi-millionaire that was expecting to be arrested wouldn't have the I's dotted and T's crossed to get in and out quick isn't surprising to me in the least.
 
JoeMorgue said:
As loathe as I am to agree with TBD (and I give a preemptive apology to everyone for whatever wild conspiratorial tangent he spins this off into) I do question the necessity of sending a SWAT team type force to arrest a 66 year old politician at 6 in the morning.

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In the past I have expressed similar dismay when the same sort of tactics were used against low-level, nickel & dime pot dealers.

Oddly enough, the same sorts that are voicing such outrage this time seemed singularly unconcerned then.
 
Molinaro said:
Do you have evidence that CNN was tipped off?
Do you have evidence to indicate CNN has not had a crew on standby at Stone's residence just in case?
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I'd say the video quality itself is evidence they weren't tipped off. They didn't even have a reporter there. Seems like they had one dude with a camera who didn't know how to use it.
 
smartcooky said:
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The reality is that, in Roger Stone, we have yet another of Trumps closest allies under indictment. "All the President's Men (are Criminals".
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Surely he is just another low-level covfefe boy.

I bet Trump barely knew him.

I only hope the trial goes on long enough until Trump is out of office so that he can't pardon this thug. Either that, or the FBI keeps something in reserve that they can charge him with later, after Trump has gone.
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Sad to say, history has shown that a sitting President can issue blanket preemptive pardons. So your hopes may be fruitless.
 
WilliamSeger said:
So, CNN wanted to make the FBI look like the gestapo, and the FBI gladly obliged?

My assumption seems to be holding up rather well.
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That folks is a genuine bona fide rule of so. Fantastic.

CNN wanted action video to pimp to their videos. FBI agave then action video. In the action video they appeared to be using gestapo like tactics.

So simple
 
The Big Dog said:
Here is an article that I commend to all of you.

This is how the FBI handles political arrests

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/December-2018/The-Day-They-Came-for-Rod-Blagojevich/
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Ok, first of all, keep in mind that that is an article about how the FBI handled one political arrest. How they handle others may depend on context (are there others at the residence, are there firearms registered to the suspect, what exactly are the crimes for).

But lets assume that it is a template for how a typical FBI arrest of a political figure would go.

Whey they arrested Blagojevich, their team included multiple agents, including 3 SWAT-trained officers and an agent trained in hostage negotiation. Furthermore, the team actually made detailed plans, including the layout of the street, officer locations, etc.

All this to arrest a politician who was not charged with a violent crime, and who was a family man, at a location where the layout was well known to the FBI (and where it was known that the personal security detail would be standing down).

Why did they do that when they could have just sent one agent to pick him up? Instead, they made an effort to send a substantial force. Sounds to me like the way they handled Stone wasn't that far out of line compared to how they handled the other arrests.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Again I'll let TBD make whatever wild crazy accusations involving the deep state and child pizza parlor sex dungeons or whatever he wants. I don't speak for him and he doesn't speak for me.

A tactical style response to arrest a non-violent offender just seems like a showy waste of resources to me.

Again the possibility of some unknown X-factor is not off the table, just unlikely.
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Some of those guys haven't been paid in a while. The tactical style response might be a little bit of getting even.
 
"CNN producer David Shortell said he had a gut instinct to go to Stone’s residence after noticing unusual grand jury activity in Washington, D.C. on Thursday."

The non-fake news media looks for the activity

nothing

Fakes news gonna fake
 
beren said:
Ooops.
What you quoted only provided ONE version of CNNs story.
Only one.

It also provided someone else's story, but that is not relevant.

Keep in mind that, according to your own logic, if you disagree with me, you are contradicting yourself and cannot keep your own story straight.
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The Big Dog said:
No “clever” canine “jokes”? Whither the “clever canine “jokes.”
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A clever canine wouldn't chase his own tail. No, I don't think this calls for clever canine jokes.
 
The Big Dog said:
That folks is a genuine bona fide rule of so. Fantastic.

CNN wanted action video to pimp to their videos. FBI agave then action video. In the action video they appeared to be using gestapo like tactics.

So simple
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So, tipping off CNN to get video of them using gestapo-like tactics was just a really stupid PR decision?

Or is this "FBI tipped CNN" just a really stupid theory?
 
The Big Dog said:
I am actually discussing the actual circumstance of the actual arrest.

Hey, you are trying to distract people from talking about the arrest by talking about the arrest!

Hmmm... maybe he should stick to clever canine capers? Yikes....
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I don't think making up a CT about Mueller's team leaking to CNN actually has anything to do with the "actual circumstances of the actual arrest."

It's a dog and pony show, at best. Even then, it lacks a pony.
 
WilliamSeger said:
So, tipping off CNN to get video of them using gestapo-like tactics was just a really stupid PR decision?

Or is this "FBI tipped CNN" just a really stupid theory?
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It's a stupid theory, because it is irrelevant either way. A judge won't spare Stone just because someone in the loop leaked what was happening.
This is nothing but gaslighting.
 
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