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"Ladies and Gentlemen, We Got Him!"

lobosrul5 said:
Not if Pence nominates a VP in the interim. Congress would have to approve of his choice with a simple majority though.
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That is very true and this detail is spelled out in the Constitution as well.

However, if as was suggested by 'ChristianProgressive' that somehow the 2016 election was fraudulent, then it would be quite unlikely that the Congress would confirm any VP choice that would be made by Pence.
 
lobosrul5 said:
Not if Pence nominates a VP in the interim. Congress would have to approve of his choice with a simple majority though.
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And that will probably be the fastest confirmation of anyone ever in the U.S. senate.

McConnell: "What's your name?"

Republican VP Candidate: "I'm the devil!"

Republican party: "Nomination approved!"
 
Crossbow said:
Sorry, but that is not right ...

If Trump is tossed, then Pence will become the president.

And if Pence is tossed, then Pelosi will become the president.

The order of succession is spelled out in the US Constitution.
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Wouldn't it be cool if Pelosi as President abdicates to Hillary Clinton, and she finally takes her rightful place in the Oval Office? I'd feel like we're back in the right universe, not the "Mirror, Mirror" one.

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Even better, Pelosi picks Hillary as VP, Pelosi resigns, and Hillary takes the throne.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
"we got him" ?
not
"the truth has been found" ?

This is the cornerstone of the police, courts and lawyers.

Always out to GET something or someone ... no concern about finding the truth
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True, in general we (as a society, and the justice system) should be interested in finding the truth, facts, etc. rather than trying to "get" someone.

However, in this case there is a substantial amount of evidence that Trump is guilty of a whole range of infractions (from things that are legal but are questionable in a moral sense... his racism, revealing state secrets, etc., all the way to things like election violations.) When the preponderance of evidence already points to someone's guilt, its natural for people to instead target an individual person rather than talking about "the truth" in a general way.
 
Crossbow said:
However, if as was suggested by 'ChristianProgressive' that somehow the 2016 election was fraudulent, then it would be quite unlikely that the Congress would confirm any VP choice that would be made by Pence.
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How cute! You think that the republicans in the senate might actually have some integrity.
 
ChristianProgressive said:
Cohen's statement about acting with the knowledge and direction of Despot Donald Trump means far far more than just the things Cohen did. it establishes precedent.

Now go back and re-read the reporting from the early days of the Mueller probe on Manafort's emails saying the campaign needed to send someone "low" to the Russians so as to not "send a signal".

Also Papadopolous' statements that Trump was well aware of and encouraged his conspiring with the Russians.

Donald J Trump is guilty of Treason, conspiracy with a foreign power, and subverting the 2016 election. The "election" is therefore invalid.

Hillary Clinton is our rightful President.
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While I an relate to your dislike of Trump, I think your interpretation of events is a little naive.

Hans
 
I don't think it can be demonstrated that the election was fraudulent. For one thing, there are 51 different elections, run by different people. For another, the result was well within the statistical probability forecast despite idiotic reports that HRC had a 99 percent chance of winning.

Fraud would be hacking voting machines or stuffing ballot boxes. I don't think it covers idiots believing what bots post on social media.

And, as others have pointed out, the remedy for a fraudulent election is not to install the losing candidate.
 
alfaniner said:
Wouldn't it be cool if Pelosi as President abdicates to Hillary Clinton, and she finally takes her rightful place in the Oval Office? I'd feel like we're back in the right universe, not the "Mirror, Mirror" one.
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Well, before abdicating, Pelosi would have all Republican Senators neutered by Executive Order.
 
Segnosaur said:
And that will probably be the fastest confirmation of anyone ever in the U.S. senate.

McConnell: "What's your name?"

Republican VP Candidate: "I'm the devil!"

Republican party: "Nomination approved!"
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For a VP, unlike for executive officers or judges, a majority of both Senate and House of Representatives is required.They won't be able to ram it through like they did with Cavanaugh.
 
Segnosaur said:
How cute! You think that the republicans in the senate might actually have some integrity.
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I don't think the Republicans in Congress have any more integrity than the Democrats. Which is to say, not much at all, often less than is necessary, sometimes more than we like to think, and just as often as not it's the other way around.
 
So, the house votes to impeach.(Impeach means "to investigate") But doesn't the Senate get in on the Guilty! vote?
 
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