"Ladies and Gentlemen, We Got Him!"

[RecoveringYuppy]

It's unlikely, no matter how bad Pence is, the Republicans in the Senate would allow a near-simultaneous removal.

That's not necessary. It's only necessary that Congress not approve Pence's nominee for VP before removing Pence.

And none of this is on the verge of actually happening yet, I'm afraid. We're talking a double impeachment and removal or resignation here? That's not in the cards right now. Senate is GOP. They haven't flipped yet. There has to be a serious break in the GOP before any of this can be a possibility. Might happen, but hasn't happened yet.

 

[The Big Dog]

Hey what’s going on in this thread?

Mueller says that the Cohen story is ********.

Ohhhh, that is going to leave a mark.

Elmer Fudd voice: ladies and gentlemen, we got him!
Pulls up fake bugs bunny made out of TNT...

Narrator: they did not have him.

 

[Brainache]

Hey what’s going on in this thread?

Mueller says that the Cohen story is ********.

Ohhhh, that is going to leave a mark.

You are totally right. Trump is as innocent as a new born babe. Trump has never broken any laws and soon he will be completely exonerated by the SCO.

The fake news Media will apologise, the wall will go up, Mexico will pay, America will once again be great and the rest of the world will start to give Donald the respect and great praise that he deserves...

Or, maybe not...

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Some Republicans claiming that President Obama wasn't really a citizen thought that the 2008 election would be reversed and McCain would become President. That's not how it works.

Unfortunately.

But in the Obama case, he was the legitimate POTUS.

In Trump's case, maybe not so much.

 

[The Big Dog]

You are totally right. Trump is as innocent as a new born babe. Trump has never broken any laws and soon he will be completely exonerated by the SCO.

The fake news Media will apologise, the wall will go up, Mexico will pay, America will once again be great and the rest of the world will start to give Donald the respect and great praise that he deserves...

Or, maybe not...

Mmmmmm, silky loin of strawman....

I was told that we have him! We have him! Sure mueller just pissed on that damp fire, but we totes have him!

We got him right where we want him!

Strawman me again!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Is there a way Pelosi could actually become president out of this?...

No, everyone on both sides will cover up anything implicating Pence.

The Democrats, because they know there is no way the Senate will do something that would allow a Democrat (or a woman apparently) to become POTUS. So without Pence, no impeachment.

The GOP Senators for obvious reasons.​

However, all of this is going to trash the GOP in 2020. Trump will never win re-election, I don't care what the naysayers say. And maybe if the Mueller report is that bad, which I think the evidence is leaning toward it will be, the Democrats can take the Senate back, keep the House and win the POTUS in 2020.

 

[The Big Dog]

No, everyone on both sides will cover up anything implicating Pence.

The Democrats, because they know there is no way the Senate will do something that would allow a Democrat (or a woman apparently) to become POTUS. So without Pence, no impeachment.

The GOP Senators for obvious reasons.​

However, all of this is going to trash the GOP in 2020. Trump will never win re-election, I don't care what the naysayers say. And maybe if the Mueller report is that bad, which I think the evidence is leaning toward it will be, the Democrats can take the Senate back, keep the House and win the POTUS in 2020.

Hmmm, you think that Mueller being forced to release a statement tonight contradicting the buzzfeed report is going to trash them?

I am skeptical. Walk us through that...

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Sorry, but that is not right ...

If Trump is tossed, then Pence will become the president.

And if Pence is tossed, then Pelosi will become the president.

The order of succession is spelled out in the US Constitution.

Yeah but theoretically the election should be nullified.

We all know that will never happen.

And there is nothing in the Constitution to deal with this kind of fraud.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Naah!

If it is uncovered that Trump used illegal means to become President, a Time Vortex will open up and transport us all back to November 2016.

Oh, yes, the science totally checks out.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Wouldn't it be cool if Pelosi as President abdicates to Hillary Clinton, and she finally takes her rightful place in the Oval Office? I'd feel like we're back in the right universe, not the "Mirror, Mirror" one.

(eta)
Even better, Pelosi picks Hillary as VP, Pelosi resigns, and Hillary takes the throne.

Much as I love that fantasy, it would only lead to the Democrats getting totally screwed in 2020 because that alt-white backlash would be on fire.

So what do we choose? The end of Trump's term filled by Pelosi who can start to repair the damage? Or replace the lot of them in 2020?

I fear we're stuck with Pence.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Hey what’s going on in this thread?

Mueller says that the Cohen story is ********.

Ohhhh, that is going to leave a mark.

Elmer Fudd voice: ladies and gentlemen, we got him!
Pulls up fake bugs bunny made out of TNT...

Narrator: they did not have him.

You haven't trusted Mueller before. Why start now?

 

[The Big Dog]

You haven't trusted Mueller before. Why start now?

So, you are saying DO NOT TRUST MUELLER?

Huh, ok. Won’t trust Mueller.

Well argued folks! So that makes buzzfeed’s unsupported article bull ****, and we should not trust mueller.

Great arguments!

 

[BobTheCoward]

So, you are saying DO NOT TRUST MUELLER?

Huh, ok. Won’t trust Mueller.

Well argued folks! So that makes buzzfeed’s unsupported article bull ****, and we should not trust mueller.

Great arguments!

I guess you don't know how questions work. I asked you why did you stop doubting them today. I have no opinion on him or the BuzzFeed article.

 

[The Big Dog]

I guess you don't know how questions work. I asked you why did you stop doubting them today. I have no opinion on him or the BuzzFeed article.

Let me amaze you: I know “how questions” work. Perhaps one will wish to review the “question”? Because loaded question AND false dichotomy AND by asking the question in the fashion you have done you have indeed already answered it.

I already answered: the whole situation is a next level nightmare for the resistance and the one option is to flee like the boat is on fire.

Any more questions?

 

[Brainache]

Let me amaze you: I know “how questions” work. Perhaps one will wish to review the “question”? Because loaded question AND false dichotomy AND by asking the question in the fashion you have done you have indeed already answered it.

I already answered: the whole situation is a next level nightmare for the resistance and the one option is to flee like the boat is on fire.

Any more questions?

I have a question: What happens when you discover that what Mueller said was not actually a negation of the Buzzfeed story?

What will you say when you finally realise that "some aspects are inaccurate" is not the same as "it's all wrong"?

Just how long until the wheels fall off your little orange trump wagon?

 

[Craig4]

"Ladies and Gentlemen, We Got Him!"

No, you have a story. You don't "got him" until he's actually forced out of office.

Have you ever even considered reading what the Constitution has to say about impeachment, elections, and treason? Perhaps you should before speaking so confidently about those topics. Once you've done that, maybe crack open Title 18 of the US Code (that's the criminal title of law in the US) and read what the elements of conspiracy are.

While I agree that Trump did break the law to become president, he was still elected by the Electoral College and the results were certified by Congress. He is the president.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Let me amaze you: I know “how questions” work. Perhaps one will wish to review the “question”? Because loaded question AND false dichotomy AND by asking the question in the fashion you have done you have indeed already answered it.

I already answered: the whole situation is a next level nightmare for the resistance and the one option is to flee like the boat is on fire.

Any more questions?

I assure you, it was a question I actually want an answer to.

 

[BobTheCoward]

Quick question

Is anyone arguing for an alternative source of the leaks that isn't the NY State attorney office?

 

[varwoche]

Hey what’s going on in this thread?

Mueller says that the Cohen story is ********.

Ohhhh, that is going to leave a mark.

Elmer Fudd voice: ladies and gentlemen, we got him!
Pulls up fake bugs bunny made out of TNT...

Narrator: they did not have him.

Enjoy the milk while it lasts. Meanwhile, contemplate the many damning stories that Mueller has not refuted.

We should all be wary of dubious sources such as Buzzfeed, relying instead on the pros such as NTY and Wapo.

 

[CapelDodger]

I assure you, it was a question I actually want an answer to.

As one who shares your intrest in epistomology, I'd like to see the answer too.