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Cont: Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator Part 3

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Red Baron Farms said:
You mean like first produce a hydrino before spending 30 years and millions of dollars attempting to cool down a hydrino reactor???
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First you build an open reactor to see how it behaves. Then you build a transparent reactor (if possible) to see how it works when closed. Then you build non transparent but glowing hot reactor to see how it behaves.
Just after that you can hide the reactor inside some cooling system.
 
tlp said:
First you build an open reactor to see how it behaves. Then you build a transparent reactor (if possible) to see how it works when closed. Then you build non transparent but glowing hot reactor to see how it behaves.
Just after that you can hide the reactor inside some cooling system.
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Never once ever thinking that maybe you should check and actually see if there is a hydrino? Not once for over 30 years? Doesn't that sound a bit fishy?

I mean what happens if his reactor starts working and stays cool, but it's all just welding sparks and not one hydrino being produced. Then you got to scrap 30 years of research and start all over again? This time actually attempting to produce a hydrino?
 
tlp said:
No time limits. The more I study GUTCP (btw. New version released just three weeks ago) and other sources of information, also from this forum, less doubts I have.
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So if the same excuses that were first trotted out 30 years ago and are still being trotted out today are also being trotted out in another 30 years time, you'll still be confident that success is just around the corner? Seriously?
 
Red Baron Farms said:
Never once ever thinking that maybe you should check and actually see if there is a hydrino? Not once for over 30 years? Doesn't that sound a bit fishy?

I mean what happens if his reactor starts working and stays cool, but it's all just welding sparks and not one hydrino being produced. Then you got to scrap 30 years of research and start all over again? This time actually attempting to produce a hydrino?
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Hydrinos have been verified almost 30 years ago.
 
tlp said:
Yes I am aware. It is difficult to estimate how long it takes to develope something totally new. Mills has recently stopped making predictions or promises, it is ready when it is ready.
Though those latest updates and short video "teasers" look quite promising.
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My hilite.

One day, Mills will no longer be able to continue (death, Alzheimer's, whatever).

Who will continue the development of a hydrino-powered generator after that? :p
 
JeanTate said:
As of today, we have to wait a mere 33 (63) days before the world has concrete, independent, evidence of the existence of a hydrino-powered generator. According to markie (though he may be having some doubts).

On 1st February 2003, 12:26 PM, davefoc (who also posted in the 2010 thread) started a thread hydrinos for you and me; this thread is cited on page 1 of the 2017 thread michaelsuede started. It is a very short thread, just 8 posts. But it contains some excellent links and advice, on where to find skeptical material on Mills' con ideas.

Has Mills etc been discussed in other threads (other than the three started in 2017, the one - with a 2014 bump - started in 2010, and the 2003 one)? I do not know.
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As of today, we have to wait a mere 32 (62) days before the world has concrete, independent, evidence of the existence of a hydrino-powered generator. According to markie (though he may be having some doubts). And according to new to the ISF tip, there will be no more predictions.

Happy New Year, 2019, everyone! :)

Will this be THE YEAR? After, what, ~30 years or so waiting, will working prototypes be delivered to truly independent teams for testing (complete with relevant certificates from at least the NJ government, concerning safety etc)? Or will this be the year Mills is diagnosed with Alzheimer's, or suffers a massive heart attack (he's no spring chicken, after all)?

More mundanely, why 32 (62)?

Well, I'll post a link to markie's promise/prediction/hint (or whatever it's best characterized as) later. For now, let's say there's a little bit of leeway ... if THE GOOD NEWS breaks later today, it'll be tomorrow before I may write about it. And if it's released close to midnight in Hawaii ... :p
 
Red Baron Farms said:
That has been thoroughly evaluated here more than once. Not only is it junk, it is actually where I got my claim that he used equipment improperly.

Not one researcher ever has been able to replicate Mills claims made here that he identified hydrinos. Certainly never dihydrino gas.

Try again?
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Depressingly common, isn't it?

We've been digging into Mills and his claims for almost two years, in this (extended) thread alone.

And every now and then along comes a newbie Mills fan, who posts pretty much the same things as we've covered - to death - several times before (and sometimes only just a page or three before).

Wouldn't it be nice, for once, for a Mills fan to post something new? Perhaps the time and place that a working prototype (of a hydrino-powered generator) will be handed over to an independent testing entity? :p
 
tlp said:
There is nothing in SunCell that can form hydrino combounds, other than dihydrinos, which is the most common natural form, happening all the time in nature.
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Not according to the patent you cited, which includes among other things the catalyst itself or just "a cation present in the cell". Did you even read your own cited reference or even just the portions I quoted?
 
JeanTate said:
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... if hydrinos are dark matter, they'll sink to the center of the Earth.
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This is wrong.

They will orbit the center of the Earth. Such orbits will not be straight-forward to estimate (lots of variables), but likely most dark matter hydrinos (dihydrino cannot exist, if the hydrino is dark matter) will spend the majority of their time below but close to the surface of the Earth.

Depending on how violently they were created, some hydrinos may be born with velocities with a vertical component that's greater than escape velocity (misnomer; it's actually a speed); these will go into orbit around the Sun, and only occasionally, if ever, pass through the Earth (again).
 
Thanks.
markie said:
OptionGeek did not say such a thing "cannot happen".
A trapped photon as per Mills is two dimensional, stuck so to speak to the inside of the orbitsphere. It is clearly not in an ordinary photon state. In such an orbitsphere - type condition, matter, energy and field meet. One may consider a 'trapped photon' to be a superposition of free space photons, or conversely a single photon with partitionable qualities. At least I do.
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And unicorns don't drop rainbow colored poop, just orange, red, yellow, green, and blue poop.

Mills may have written something which is at least plausible (provided you don't look too hard), but "not in an ordinary photon state", "an orbitsphere - type condition, matter, energy and field meet", "One may consider a 'trapped photon' to be a superposition of free space photons", etc is worthy of a scifi story ... but not anything to do with physics. :p
 
The Man said:
Not according to the patent you cited, which includes among other things the catalyst itself or just "a cation present in the cell". Did you even read your own cited reference or even just the portions I quoted?
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SunCell is invented after that patent. In SunCell the catalyst is (nascent) water. Nothing to form other combounds than dihydrinos.
 
tlp said:
Just look at the sky. Though you cannot see it, other than the gravitational effect.
Edit: and certain radiation when great amount of it is formed.
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Really?

I guess the pressure exerted on a container from which the air has been expelled (i.e. a vacuum) doesn't exist.

Nor do cosmic ray air showers (because there's nothing for the primaries to collide with).

And we don't need expensive rockets to launch instruments above the atmosphere to observe the Sun in the NUV, FUV, EUV, x-ray, or gamma ray light.

Too, the sky is totally black, in all directions other than towards light emitting, distant objects (like the Sun), because there's nothing to scatter sunlight.

Oh, and clouds cannot form.

Etc. :p
 
tlp said:
No time limits. The more I study GUTCP (btw. New version released just three weeks ago) and other sources of information, also from this forum, less doubts I have.
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This is my experience as well. I find that critics of GUTCP are, in general, those who have invested less time in studying the material than proponents. I began as an extreme skeptic when I first encountered GUTCP many years ago. It was only because of the "impossible" calculations Mills produced (and I could replicate), that intellectual honesty demanded that I put in the time to digest and understand the material. Like tlp, the more I learn, the more convinced I become.
 
tlp said:
There is nothing in SunCell that can form hydrino combounds, other than dihydrinos, which is the most common natural form, happening all the time in nature.
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My hilite.

Where?

What are the production rates?
 
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