Adorable.
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Adorable.
Update on the Guatemalan kid and her dad:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/15/us/guatemalan-girls-father/index.html
He's saying that Border Patrol did everything they could to help and that he has "no complaints" about their treatment. He does, however, dispute their statement that the girl hadn't had food or water for days before the arrest and insists that she was kept fed and hydrated the entire time.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/15/us/guatemalan-girls-father/index.html
He's saying that Border Patrol did everything they could to help and that he has "no complaints" about their treatment. He does, however, dispute their statement that the girl hadn't had food or water for days before the arrest and insists that she was kept fed and hydrated the entire time.
Arrogance works when you have nothing worthy to say I guess?
Once again, people exploiting them for a good story, facts be damned.
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Anecdote: I live in San Diego. I go through the highway check points several times a month, and last year crossed into Tecate and back seven times for cheap dentistry. EVERY agent I see is Hispanic. I doubt they laugh at their "cousins" in distress. But they seemed to enjoy hassling the ethnic minority white guy.
If what you're claiming is that ICE agents are largely Hispanic in appearance and are therefore sympathetic to the illegals, some may be but most are not. I don't know any Hispanics that are pro-illegals, they are actually quite vocally against it.
Law enforcement officers are, by and large, committed to doing their jobs and enforcing laws. Do you think these Hispanic officers are going to turn a blind eye to people sneaking into the country? I do not.
If they don't like you it may not be your skin color. In fact that seems like an odd thing to assume.
Law enforcement officers are, by and large, committed to doing their jobs and enforcing laws. Do you think these Hispanic officers are going to turn a blind eye to people sneaking into the country? I do not.
If they don't like you it may not be your skin color. In fact that seems like an odd thing to assume.
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Because they're ******* petty authoritarians, cheered on by a coalition of ********, racists, useful idiots, and cynical political operators leveraging fear.
It doesn't take people as crazy as Batman villains to do some truly deplorable things when the system is allowing, or in this case encouraging, such evil.
It was not because they weren't prescribed to her. That's an asspull. The simple reason is these thugs believe their cruelty is justified, and thus will abuse any power given to them in order to perpetrate cruelty.
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I was just going to post this but you beat me to it. Note, however, that this is NY Rep Peter King, not the even more insane Steve King of Iowa, who is probably disappointed that they've only killed two brown kids.
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Even if the reason they pulled them was a lack of prescription, if they're taking them then they, at least, think something's wrong. Get a freaking doctor. It's not rocket science. It really isn't.
Heck, when I was deployed to Iraq, we even got doctors for our detainees if they showed signs of illness. On the same day, even.
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But then there was Abu Ghraib. At some point incompetence crosses over into malice.
What do you all think should be done about the border situation? I see a lot of complaints and no solutions.
Process them and set them free in our country until their court date two years later, many of which never appear? I think that's what we do now. I think that's a terrible idea.
Is that how other countries do it? Just let people walk in and do whatever they please?
Should we deny them entry in the first place and forcibly remove them if they get through?
Should we let in everyone who wants to be here and let them stay?
What is your solution for this? More (maybe better) detention centers? Do we need to build 4-star hotels so we can make it as easy as possible for people to take advantage of us?
Why is it our fault that these people have no place to go when they get here?
Again, what do other countries do? Because we are being made out to be evil scum for doing one of the most basic things a country can do - secure its borders.
Our problem is that most people don't want to go to any other country so we get them all. You have no idea what the problem is like here because we are the only country with it at such a constant scale.
Anyone have a plan? My plan was mentioned above: "Deny them entry in the first place and forcibly remove them if they get through"
Process them and set them free in our country until their court date two years later, many of which never appear? I think that's what we do now. I think that's a terrible idea.
Is that how other countries do it? Just let people walk in and do whatever they please?
Should we deny them entry in the first place and forcibly remove them if they get through?
Should we let in everyone who wants to be here and let them stay?
What is your solution for this? More (maybe better) detention centers? Do we need to build 4-star hotels so we can make it as easy as possible for people to take advantage of us?
Why is it our fault that these people have no place to go when they get here?
Again, what do other countries do? Because we are being made out to be evil scum for doing one of the most basic things a country can do - secure its borders.
Our problem is that most people don't want to go to any other country so we get them all. You have no idea what the problem is like here because we are the only country with it at such a constant scale.
Anyone have a plan? My plan was mentioned above: "Deny them entry in the first place and forcibly remove them if they get through"
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This isn't possible. I've been told endlessly by the brilliant, not-at-all-ignorant European skeptics on this forum that you can't see a doctor in the US unless you pay for it.
I'm not sure that's true:
https://www.politifact.com/punditfa...ty-undocumented-immigrants-show-court-data-s/Politifact said:
That's the situation for all types of undocumented immigrants, but if you are talking about Asylum Seekers, the numbers are different. From the same link:
Politifact said:
Speaking as an Australian, I can only say that I disagree strongly with my government's policy of detaining asylum seekers in off-shore detention centres. I think it is inhumane and brutal. I also think it is hypocritical for a nation which was founded on and thrived for centuries on a basis of immigration (forced or otherwise) to now be so hostile towards the concept.
If we did "let people walk in and do as they please" I wouldn't see that as a problem. As history has shown, when immigrants do that the economy expands, the culture is enriched and the society as a whole benefits in many ways both tangible and intangible.
No.
Yes.
How about not detaining them at all? How about letting them find work legally, letting them start businesses etc and having them pay taxes?
While you're at it, you could fix the health-care system and stop all those corporations and billionaires dodging tax...
See the Statue of Liberty and about a hundred years of pro-US propaganda exported to the rest of the world in the form of pop-culture entertainment.
The US created the demand by advertising itself as the greatest damn place on the planet for at least a century. Now it's up to you guys to either prove it, or shut the hell up.
If you guys are so worried about a few thousand impoverished Central Americans destroying your "land of the free and home of the brave" then there is something very wrong there.
As noted above, my country has a despicable, evil and scummy policy of locking up vulnerable people on islands. I don't like it.
I think people in the EU might disagree with you:
https://www.euronews.com/2018/07/09...creases-while-number-of-those-kicked-out-riseeuronews said:
Plenty of people trying to get into Europe.
I'm tempted to ask how your family got into America and whether or not they would have been forcibly removed if this policy had been in place at the time... But I won't.
I'll just point out that the US was founded by immigrants and their families. It grew in size and prosperity through the efforts of immigrants. Its strength and diversity is a product of immigration and the fact that it now fears immigration is a terrible shame.
Have a nice day...
Throughout the United States, if Law Enforcement finds a prescription drug that is in the possession of someone to which it is not prescribed, they confiscate it. This is not waived because you are attempting to enter the US illegally.
Your source proves that is true.
Only in a minority of cases.
But I'm worried that I've wandered into a forum No-Go Zone, so I'll leave it there...
Doesn't matter if it's a "minority." "Many" people are entering the country illegally and disregarding court orders.
Also not true. This forum is up to its teeth in propaganda.