Cont: The Trump Presidency 11: Insert something funny

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alfaniner said:
I think "bloody saw" would have been a better metaphor.
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"It could very well be that the Crown Prince had knowledge of this tragic event — maybe he did and maybe he didn't! That being said, we may never know all of the facts surrounding the murder of Mr. Jamal Khashoggi." (Trump)

One fact we do know, Trump: your buddy is a murderer. But money is more important to you. You've made that very clear. :mad:

It will be interesting to see how Trumpers defend this one. And they will.
 
Stacyhs said:
It will be interesting to see how Trumpers defend this one. And they will.
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Something like this: if we don't sell weapons to Saudi Arabia then SOMEONE ELSE WILL! China or Russia most likely. <never mind, that the missile defense system we are selling them is the best in the world>

Or: while Saudi Arabia isn't exactly ideal, and they do export all kinds of terrorism (wahhabism), the royal family keeps them in check. Without them Saudi Arabia becomes basically ISIS part 2.

Please keep in mind thats what I've heard said, I don't personally agree. Also the first argument is the same as a drug dealer saying "hey if I hadn't sold that 12 year old meth, someone else would've!!".
 
In the broadest, absolute abstract I can conceptually understand the political need to... just suck it up and keep one of the major regional powers in the Middle East on our side even if it involves dealing with someone... less than ideal. I'm sure most everyone gets "Politics is strange bedfellows" and all that to at least some degree.

How we wound up with the Monarchistic one that has public beheadings for witchcraft is a little beyond me.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

Could somebody please explain to the Democrats (we need their votes) that our Country losses 250 Billion Dollars a year on illegal immigration, not including the terrible drug flow. Top Border Security, including a Wall, is $25 Billion. Pays for itself in two months. Get it done!
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Does this mean the Mexicans aren’t going to pay for it?
 
lobosrul5 said:
Something like this: if we don't sell weapons to Saudi Arabia then SOMEONE ELSE WILL! China or Russia most likely. <never mind, that the missile defense system we are selling them is the best in the world>

Or: while Saudi Arabia isn't exactly ideal, and they do export all kinds of terrorism (wahhabism), the royal family keeps them in check. Without them Saudi Arabia becomes basically ISIS part 2.

Please keep in mind thats what I've heard said, I don't personally agree. Also the first argument is the same as a drug dealer saying "hey if I hadn't sold that 12 year old meth, someone else would've!!".
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Yeah, but if Saudi ends up in the Russian camp, that would just place it next to the White House.
 
Norman Alexander said:
I suspect the person who wrote this, complete with spelling, proper capitalisation and correct punctuation...

...is someone completely different from the person who wrote these bits of 2nd grade wiffle.
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Just fyi, I prefer the format of that post, with the Trump Tweets quoted, as opposed to them being posted open with just a blurb and no commentary.
 
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alfaniner said:
Just fyi, I prefer the format of that post, with the Trump Tweets quoted, as opposed to them being posted open with just a blurb and no commentary.
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I prefer when the thread isn't bogged down with irrelevant opinions on the proper context and formatting preferred when a tweet is included and the entirely valid and on-topic content of said tweets is summarily ignored.
 
Mojo said:
Does this mean the Mexicans aren’t going to pay for it?
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Why on earth would you think anyone would say the Mexicans will pay for a USA wall, Trump has always been clear it will cost 25 billion!

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JoeMorgue said:
In the broadest, absolute abstract I can conceptually understand the political need to... just suck it up and keep one of the major regional powers in the Middle East on our side even if it involves dealing with someone... less than ideal. I'm sure most everyone gets "Politics is strange bedfellows" and all that to at least some degree.

How we wound up with the Monarchistic one that has public beheadings for witchcraft is a little beyond me.
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I can tell you that in three letter...O I L....
 
dudalb said:
I can tell you that in three letter...O I L....
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Venezuela has more oil than Saudi Arabia, is closer, and is so poor would could buy and sell it. Canada has about 2/3s as much is is... like right there.
 
dudalb said:
I can tell you that in three letter...O I L....
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American drillers will pump enough oil in 2019 to potentially surpass Saudi Arabia's output and rival the world's current top producer, Russia, according to a forecast from the U.S. Department of Energy.

The department's Energy Information Administration forecast Tuesday that U.S. oil production will average 10.8 million barrels a day in 2019, a level that would put it on par with Saudi Arabia and Russia. EIA expects American output to top 11 million barrels a day for the first time ever in November 2019.

This year, EIA sees U.S. output rising to 10.3 million barrels a day, the highest ever annual average production.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/09/us-...at-saudi-arabia-and-rival-russia-by-2019.html
 
Oh, I know that the Kingdom is not nearly as big a supplier of oil as it once was.
But I think US support for Saudi stated when it was a major supplier to the West,and just sort of continued. No doubt US support now is because it sees Saudi as a counterforce to Iran. IMHO not a lot, ethically to chose between them.
 
What a turn around in the stock market. All due to Trump, the final tally today:

That was fast. Wall Street's enthusiasm for the US-China trade truce has completely vanished.

The Dow dropped 799 points, or 3.1%, on Tuesday. At one point, the index was down 818 points. The S&P 500 declined 3.2%, while the Nasdaq tumbled 3.8%.

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The selloff wipes out a chunk of last week's huge rally. The Dow jumped 288 points on Monday on relief about the ceasefire between the United States and China on trade.

But investors are quickly realizing that the US-China trade war is not over. The tariffs already put in place remain. And new tariffs could be implemented if the two sides fail to make progress.

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Investors have also grown very worried in recent days about fluctuations in the bond market. The gap between short and long-term Treasury rates has narrowed significantly this week. Before almost every recession, the yield curve has inverted, meaning short-term rates are higher than long-term ones.

The difference between the 10-year and two-year Treasury yields shrank on Tuesday to the smallest since just before the Great Recession. And the less closely watched gap between three and five-year Treasury yields inverted on Monday.

"Inversion is usually the first sign of an economic slowdown," said Kinahan. He cautioned that further evidence is needed and signs of a recession are not evident in corporate earnings.
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Linky.
 
As commentators have pointed out, the "Great Deal" with China was, in terms of actual achievement, little more then a agreement to keep talking.
Wall Street was not fooled, and is reacting because there was not a genuine breakthrough in the talks, and suspect it was just Trump desperate for a "win" after the poiunding he has just taken over the past week.
 
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