Mueller Investigation pt4

[PhantomWolf]

K. T. McFarland is the person that proves TBD wrong.

As Flynn's Deputy, she knew exactly what he was doing, and she went on to lie to both the FBI and the Senate about what he told her as to his dealings with Russia after the Election.

If TBD was correct in all this, the FBI would have pressed charges against her, they know she lied to them, she went back and "clarified" her answers to them after Flynn was charged (i.e. claimed that she has forgotten about it, you know like the rest of the administration that has such bad memories about things, and like how all of Reagan's administration had bad memories about Iran and weapons and Contras.)

Oh, and looking it up, the Barry Bonds case has zero to do with what is going on here, and there was never a "perjury trap" set for Bonds. He was given immunity to testify and when it came time to give a yes or no answer on if he'd been supplied steroids, he waffled on about growing up and various other things and refused to answer the question. The second Appeal Court determined that while the answer wasn't a response to the question, that because of its content, the answer given was not material to the case and so would not have caused the Grand Jury to have been sidetracked, and that it should have been up to the Prosecutor to answer more questions to clarify the situation, so it was not therefore enough to consider his response an obstruction of Justice.

 

[acbytesla]

K. T. McFarland is the person that proves TBD wrong.

As Flynn's Deputy, she knew exactly what he was doing, and she went on to lie to both the FBI and the Senate about what he told her as to his dealings with Russia after the Election.

If TBD was correct in all this, the FBI would have pressed charges against her, they know she lied to them, she went back and "clarified" her answers to them after Flynn was charged (i.e. claimed that she has forgotten about it, you know like the rest of the administration that has such bad memories about things, and like how all of Reagan's administration had bad memories about Iran and weapons and Contras.)

Rachel Maddow covers this all in depth. https://youtu.be/fy1INiv-nJQ

What should be clear to all who don't continue to keep their heads buried in the sand or up Trump's behind is the Russia had thoroughly compromised Donald Trump.

Definitely check out Maddow's coverage.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Rachel Maddow covers this all in depth. https://youtu.be/fy1INiv-nJQ

What should be clear to all who don't continue to keep their heads buried in the sand or up Trump's behind is the Russia had thoroughly compromised Donald Trump.

Definitely check out Maddow's coverage.

You mean on the show that I posted about here

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Smart, because don’t you live outside the United States?

That's way down the list of reasons. I expect you're just as much of an expert in international law as you are in US law.

 

[The Big Dog]

K. T. McFarland is the person that proves TBD wrong.

As Flynn's Deputy, she knew exactly what he was doing, and she went on to lie to both the FBI and the Senate about what he told her as to his dealings with Russia after the Election.

If TBD was correct in all this, the FBI would have pressed charges against her, they know she lied to them, she went back and "clarified" her answers to them after Flynn was charged (i.e. claimed that she has forgotten about it, you know like the rest of the administration that has such bad memories about things, and like how all of Reagan's administration had bad memories about Iran and weapons and Contras.)

Oh, and looking it up, the Barry Bonds case has zero to do with what is going on here, and there was never a "perjury trap" set for Bonds. He was given immunity to testify and when it came time to give a yes or no answer on if he'd been supplied steroids, he waffled on about growing up and various other things and refused to answer the question. The second Appeal Court determined that while the answer wasn't a response to the question, that because of its content, the answer given was not material to the case and so would not have caused the Grand Jury to have been sidetracked, and that it should have been up to the Prosecutor to answer more questions to clarify the situation, so it was not therefore enough to consider his response an obstruction of Justice.

Oy vey, almost painful at this point.....

This entire discussion started with the obviously false assertion that in order to avoid perjury all one has to do is tell the truth. Does that mean everyone who lies gets charged? **** no, otherwise mueller, comey, McCabe, Clinton an thousands of others in the deep state would be in jail.

C’mon man...

Your assertions about macFarland are wildly exaggerated.

 

[The Big Dog]

That's way down the list of reasons. I expect you're just as much of an expert in international law as you are in US law.

You are going to get arrested for violating international law? Huh.

Goo luck, maybe you can get the Poet to defend you.

 

[acbytesla]

You mean on the show that I posted about here

I tip my cap.

 

[The Shrike]

You mean on the show that I posted about here

It was during the campaign that it was already abundantly clear that Putin had something on Trump. Pee-pee tape rumors notwithstanding, Trump was obviously beholden to Russians for some kind of investment/loan dealings. Maddow et al. are merely adding more dots to a line that was already easy to draw.

 

[Paul2]

No it doesn’t and it is not irrelevant.

I'm happy to hear why it doesn't and why it's not.

In the future, we can cut to the chase if you could explain why the statements you make are true or reasonable, etc., in the same post as you make those statements.

 

[acbytesla]

It was during the campaign that it was already abundantly clear that Putin had something on Trump. Pee-pee tape rumors notwithstanding, Trump was obviously beholden to Russians for some kind of investment/loan dealings. Maddow et al. are merely adding more dots to a line that was already easy to draw.

I never bought the pee per tape rumors....(But you never know) But the idea that all of this a coincidence is really very hard to believe. (That is if you're not one of those morons who believe Trump on ANYTHING.)

Flynn is working for the Russians...(actually being paid by the Russians) He tells the Russians do not react to the new sanctions because Trump will lift them if he's elected. Flynn comes back from Russia and almost immediately Trump speaking directly to a Russian agent (Buttina) who is now being held in a US prison starts talking sanctions all the while Cohen is talking to Putin's banker. This is like a really bad version of a John Le Carre or Robert Ludlum novel

How a patriotic American can continue to support Trump given what we know today is beyond me.

 

[ServiceSoon]

It was during the campaign that it was already abundantly clear that Putin had something on Trump. Pee-pee tape rumors notwithstanding, Trump was obviously beholden to Russians for some kind of investment/loan dealings. Maddow et al. are merely adding more dots to a line that was already easy to draw.

Didnt Trump sign sanctions against Russia, to which Russia retaliated? I think it even included limitations on Trump’s authority on this matter.

 

[PhantomWolf]

This entire discussion started with the obviously false assertion that in order to avoid perjury all one has to do is tell the truth.

Which is true, as long as what you are saying in on point and truthful.

Does that mean everyone who lies gets charged? **** no, otherwise mueller, comey, McCabe, Clinton an thousands of others in the deep state would be in jail.

This "deep state" only exists in the furtive minds of you and Trump.

Your assertions about macFarland are wildly exaggerated.

What is exaggerated? She went to Congress and lied about Flynn's involvement with Russia. She went to the FBI and lied about it, and then when the FBI charged Flynn and showed they had documented evidence of her lies she scurried back there and claimed that she'd forgotten all about it, so wasn't really lying at all, despite her testimony to Congress that her memory was totally clear on the matter.

 

[The Big Dog]

I'm happy to hear why it doesn't and why it's not.

In the future, we can cut to the chase if you could explain why the statements you make are true or reasonable, etc., in the same post as you make those statements.

Well, you were the one who has made the declarations in the first place, but the real problem is that you don’t seem to understand that the issue typically arises when the fbi already knows the answers through documents or other tangible sources generated by the target, not other people as you suggested.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Didnt Trump sign sanctions against Russia, to which Russia retaliated? I think it even included limitations on Trump’s authority on this matter.

Only after the Media made a huge deal out of the fact that he was refusing to sign the bill by its due date and finally Congress pressed the matter with him. He tried to get away with not doing it, but he got backed into a corner where he had no choice.

 

[acbytesla]

Your assertions about macFarland are wildly exaggerated.

What is exaggerated? She went to Congress and lied about Flynn's involvement with Russia. She went to the FBI and lied about it, and then when the FBI charged Flynn and showed they had documented evidence of her lies she scurried back there and claimed that she'd forgotten all about it, so wasn't really lying at all, despite her testimony to Congress that her memory was totally clear on the matter.

I think someone is in denial.

 

[ServiceSoon]

I never bought the pee per tape rumors....(But you never know) But the idea that all of this a coincidence is really very hard to believe. (That is if you're not one of those morons who believe Trump on ANYTHING.)

Flynn is working for the Russians...(actually being paid by the Russians) He tells the Russians do not react to the new sanctions because Trump will lift them if he's elected. Flynn comes back from Russia and almost immediately Trump speaking directly to a Russian agent (Buttina) who is now being held in a US prison starts talking sanctions all the while Cohen is talking to Putin's banker. This is like a really bad version of a John Le Carre or Robert Ludlum novel

How a patriotic American can continue to support Trump given what we know today is beyond me.

Trump didn’t lift the sanctions, he actually increased them.

 

[acbytesla]

Only after the Media made a huge deal out of the fact that he was refusing to sign the bill by its due date and finally Congress pressed the matter with him. He tried to get away with not doing it, but he got backed into a corner where he had no choice.

And then seem to hesitate actually enforcing the sanctions.

 

[The Big Dog]

Which is true, as long as what you are saying in on point and truthful.

Lol wut

 

[acbytesla]

Trump didn’t lift the sanctions, he actually increased them.

That was Congress and Trump didn't sign it until they put a gun to Trump's head. And even then the Trump administration did everything they could not to enforce the sanctions.

 

[PhantomWolf]

Lol wut

If you answer the questions asked in a way that is truthful and non-evasion then there is no reason that you would be charged with perjury. It's that simple. And before you wave Popehat and Barry Bonds again, Bonds did not do this, he answered a straight yes of no question with a load of waffle that had zero to do with the question.