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ponderingturtle said:
Weird. I seriously wonder why. He hasn't changed so why are they?
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It's the old "straw that broke the camel's back" problem. Sure, it's difficult to tell exactly where each camels' breaking point will be, but we know they each have one. Trump is just starting to find a few more each day, it seems.
 
Belz... said:
I don't know. Can we still call intelligent people who make such terrible decisions?
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Well, they are certainly "people" who are intelligent in many other areas. People as a species tend to filter their information and base their decisions on their pre-existing viewpoints and emotional reactions. Even many of those people who are intelligent in other matters. And, as often pointed out, if one did not use logic to reach a particular view, logic will seldom cause one to change one's view.

Trump speaks to views learned very early in life based on emotion and indoctrination-lite from families, from empty "patriotic" exercises in many schools (pledges to the flag, instead of probing discussions of the Constitution, etc.) and in the community, and from many religions. He also knows how to use fear to overwhelm logic (an idea well demonstrated over and over again in human history).
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I'd just like to point out that the state US politics is in at the moment means that there's a report that the US secretary of state hand-delivered a plan to a hostile foreign power to help them cover up the murder and dismemberment of a US citizen, and it has passed entirely without comment after being posted in this thread. Are we really that numb to it all now?
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Entirely? I commented on it, if only to point out how much like organised crime Trump's administration is.
 
varwoche said:
Ivanka's use of private email demands that the people unite in opposition. We need to array en masse in front of the White House, and outside every Trump property nationwide. We need our own chant -- one that both inspires the movement and encourages fence-sitters to join, while still showing support for rule of law.

Slap her wrist! Slap her wrist!​
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Now that the White House has explained why Ivanka used a private email account, the story should just die down.

She claims that she didn't know there was a rule against it. It's not like it is a topic she would have heard about for any reason. :boggled:
 
Horatius said:
It's the old "straw that broke the camel's back" problem. Sure, it's difficult to tell exactly where each camels' breaking point will be, but we know they each have one. Trump is just starting to find a few more each day, it seems.
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Segnosaur said:
Keep in mind that that article was published in October, before Stubby McBonespur's little "I'm scared of rain so won't attend a war memorial" stunt. I suspect the situation will be even worse now for military supporters and Trump.
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What he likes soldiers who are not captured and are known. It is POW's and unknowns that he doesn't respect.
 
Segnosaur said:
Keep in mind that that article was published in October, before Stubby McBonespur's* little "I'm scared of rain so won't attend a war memorial" stunt. I suspect the situation will be even worse now for military supporters and Trump.
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That story about Trump being scared to visit war zones is obviously some kind of palace intrigue press leakage. I don't know whether its true or not, but the journos running with it are carrying water for someone in the administration with a grudge.

*Here's my obligatory lament about the juvenile name-calling in the USA politics subforum.
 
carlitos said:
That story about Trump being scared to visit war zones is obviously some kind of palace intrigue press leakage. I don't know whether its true or not, but the journos running with it are carrying water for someone in the administration with a grudge.

*Here's my obligatory lament about the juvenile name-calling in the USA politics subforum.
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Given his complete lack of tact, I can't imagine having him visit soldiers in a combat theater for a war he doesn't support ending well.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I'd just like to point out that the state US politics is in at the moment means that there's a report that the US secretary of state hand-delivered a plan to a hostile foreign power to help them cover up the murder and dismemberment of a US citizen, and it has passed entirely without comment after being posted in this thread. Are we really that numb to it all now?
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Slight correction: US resident, not citizen.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I'd just like to point out that the state US politics is in at the moment means that there's a report that the US secretary of state hand-delivered a plan to a hostile foreign power to help them cover up the murder and dismemberment of a US citizen, and it has passed entirely without comment after being posted in this thread. Are we really that numb to it all now?
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Eliot Engel will likely be the next chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, but I doubt he'll take up an investigation. He's a neo-con Democrat when it comes to the War on Terror, voting for the Iraq invasion and always opposing withdrawal from Afghanistan, and last year he helped kill a Democratic bill to stop sponsoring Saudi Arabia's bombing in Yemen. Maybe some other committee will take up an investigation; I'd like to see it in the Articles of Impeachment. The fact that this was a murder of a journalist for being critical of an authoritarian ruler easily makes any Trump involvement in a cover-up a high crime.
 
Elagabalus said:
He also seems not to be getting the how all these agencies work together thing. Even if Mcraven knew about OBL's location before the CIA brought him in, he still would have to wait for a go ahead, so I'm not sure why Donny is blaming him for not going after OBL sooner.
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Trump is a moron. He's lazy and ignorant and think he's smarter than everyone around him. He lies to cover up his ignorance and the really stupid part of that is that makes him look even dumber.
 
CapelDodger said:
Intelligence can help people rationalise their emotional responses. Stupid people don't see the need to.
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"It takes a first-class mind to reconcile two mutually contradictory beliefs"

See also the highly intelligent people who study theology.
 
Stacko said:
Given his complete lack of tact, I can't imagine having him visit soldiers in a combat theater for a war he doesn't support ending well.
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"Be glad you are in Iraq and not a trench in France during World War I! It RAINED there! You signed up while we fought in deserts, and not jungles and rainy meadows, you are very smart soldiers, the best soldiers!"...

Edit: just remembered that the same moron who "doesn't think the US should be in Iraq" also says the US should have taken all of Iraq's oil.
 
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Safe-Keeper said:
"Be glad you are in Iraq and not a trench in France during World War I! It RAINED there! You signed up while we fought in deserts, and not jungles and rainy meadows, you are very smart soldiers, the best soldiers!"...

Edit: just remembered that the same moron who "doesn't think the US should be in Iraq" also says the US should have taken all of Iraq's oil.
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And that he was going to crush ISIS. THough to be fair I am not sure he knows where ISIS is or was.
 
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