Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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Drysdale said:
And this points to collusion how again?
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No, it points to lots of criminal activity - which Muller was empowered to investigate if he found.

Of course there are going to be no arrests for "collusion" as that is not a specific crime. It is covered by other crimes.

However this timeline, which is massive, has a large list of evidence for collusion.


https://investigaterussia.org/timelines/everything-we-know-about-russia-and-president-trump

This one might be easier to navigate:

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2017/politics/russia-investigations/#/

I have got tired of updating my timeline, so this is really out of date, but is still on its own, sufficient to suggest collusion as the most obvious explanation.
ETA: This is a copy paste from my timeline of December 2017, as there is too much evidence now - feel free to quote and add extra for context, anyone


Mar 19| Podesta email hacked
Apr 19| DCLeaks.com registered
May 3| Trump becomes presumptive nominee
June 3| Goldstone contacts Trump Jr. to setup meeting which promises to discuss Clinton June 7 17:16 | Don Jr. confirms meeting w/ Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya June7 21:13 | Trump promises press conf the next week with Clinton dirt
June 8| Trump posts link to DCLeaks
June 9| Trump Jr, Kushner, Manafort meet with Russian operative
June 9 | Trump Jr calls blocked number immediately after meeting claims he can't recall whether his father's number is blocked (others have confirmed it is)
June 12| Assange announces Clinton emails
June 27| Hacked emails posted to DCLeaks
July 11| Trump/Manafort nix pro-Ukranian plank in GOP platform (and lie about it)
Late July | Malware researchers spot unusual server activity between Trump server and Alfa Bank
Aug 21| Roger Stone writes "it will soon be Podesta's time in the barrel"
Oct -7 | Pussygate video released
Oct 7| Wikileaks releases Podesta emails (an hour later)
Dec- 29 | Flynn Consults With Transition Team, Then Calls Kislyak
Dec 30 | Putin Declines to Retaliate
2017 |
Jan 15 | Pence Says He Is Unaware of Flynn’s Discussions
Jan 26| Sally Yates meets White House Counsel and warns that Flynn is lying and the Russians can prove it - making him a blackmail risk
Feb 9| Flynn’s Conversation Is Revealed by WaPo
Feb 13 | Flynn fired
Feb 14 | White House Says Flynn Violated President’s Trust
Feb 14| Trump asks FBI Director Comey to drop investigation into Flynn
May 9| Comey is fired
May| DOJ drops money laundering case against client of Natalia Veselnitskaya
May 11| Trump tells NBC he considered "this Russia thing" before firing Comey
May 12| Democrats ask questions about the DoJ dropping the money lanudering case
 
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Drysdale said:
And this points to collusion how again?
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It doesn't, but it indicates that Trump associates with a lot of crooks from both sides of the ocean.

Of course, if it would point to collusion, you'd say it doesn't point to conspiracy. If it did point to conspiracy, you'd say it doesn't point to guilt, etc.
 
Drysdale said:
And this points to collusion how again?
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Point 1: Please try to keep up. The post wasn't an answer to a question about "collusion", it was an answer to a question about how many people in Trump's Orbit hand been indicted and convicted.

Point 2: Again, please try to keep up. You are several weeks behind the play repeating Idiot Giuliani's stupid and ignorant talking points.

Yes, we all know that "collusion" is not a crime in and of itself, but "collusion to commit a crime" is! Furthermore it is a aggravator.

Defrauding the United States is crime a under 18 U.S. Code § 1031

Colluding (i.e conspiring with) one or more others to defraud the United States is a crime under 18 U.S. Code § 371, and it as regarded as more serious.
 
Speaking of Giuliani. Where is he? He has been unbelievably silent. Did the RNC House/Senate caucuses ask to keep him sidelined until after the mid-terms? He's such a klutz that he can't do anything positive (for Trump) without throwing someone else behind the bus (he tries for under the bus like the pros but he has horrible aim).
 
Foolmewunz said:
Speaking of Giuliani. Where is he? He has been unbelievably silent. Did the RNC House/Senate caucuses ask to keep him sidelined until after the mid-terms? He's such a klutz that he can't do anything positive (for Trump) without throwing someone else behind the bus (he tries for under the bus like the pros but he has horrible aim).
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Maybe he visited the Saudi embassy?
 
fagin said:
Maybe he visited the Saudi embassy?
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Be on the lookout for someone walking around in Giuliani's clothes, but I'd bet he's been ordered to stay off TV. He kept forgetting who he was talking to and what they weren't supposed to know.
 
smartcooky said:
Point 1: Please try to keep up. The post wasn't an answer to a question about "collusion", it was an answer to a question about how many people in Trump's Orbit hand been indicted and convicted.

Point 2: Again, please try to keep up. You are several weeks behind the play repeating Idiot Giuliani's stupid and ignorant talking points.

Yes, we all know that "collusion" is not a crime in and of itself, but "collusion to commit a crime" is! Furthermore it is a aggravator.

Defrauding the United States is crime a under 18 U.S. Code § 1031

Colluding (i.e conspiring with) one or more others to defraud the United States is a crime under 18 U.S. Code § 371, and it as regarded as more serious.
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That's my point. They aren't investigating a crime, it's a fishing expedition.
As or those guilty pleas so what? It's just something flashy to wave for the press and libs.
 
Drysdale said:
That's my point. They aren't investigating a crime, it's a fishing expedition.
As or those guilty pleas so what? It's just something flashy to wave for the press and libs.
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Successful prosecutions are mere PR stunts?
 
There are social media rumors floating about that Mueller is about to get saddled with a sexual harassment claim by a nonexistent or incorrectly identified former associate. Partially to smear Mueller of course, but also to discredit any journalists that pick the story up, the claim having been shopped to several already.
 
Drysdale said:
That's my point. They aren't investigating a crime, it's a fishing expedition.
As or those guilty pleas so what? It's just something flashy to wave for the press and libs.
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:confused:

If police comes by my house because reports of an illegal firearm, and they discover a kilo of cocaine sitting on my kitchen table, are they supposed to ignore it because it's not what they originally came for?

"Oh, a kilogram of coke, so what, how is that evidence of unregistered firearms? Stupid PR stunts from incompetent cops #fakenews #maga".
 
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