Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

[WilliamSeger]

Cricket matches take so long that they have scheduled breaks for drinks, lunch and tea.

Ah, thanks. English -- so many things we don't have words for, and so many things we use the same words for.

 

[fagin]

Cricket matches take so long that they have scheduled breaks for drinks, lunch and tea.

And sleep.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

How about "drink break?" I know it's the name of a snooker podcast -- I assumed that's when fans sit about the pub or club and discuss the match.

"And that's a bad miss"

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Cricket matches take so long that they have scheduled breaks for drinks, lunch and tea.

And passing your fielding position to the next generation.

 

[jimbob]

And passing your fielding position to the next generation.

Now that's a lie - plausible, but still a lie. I don't believe any Cricket match has lasted more than a decade.

 

[dasmiller]

Cricket matches take so long that they have scheduled breaks for drinks, lunch and tea.

And sleep.

Yeah, same thing in American baseball. We call the sleep periods "innings."

 

[jimbob]

I have seen it claimed that Cricket had been the more popular game in the US until the Civil War, when games like Rounders were easier to set up for soldiers.

No idea if it is true.

 

[Tolls]

How about "drink break?" I know it's the name of a snooker podcast -- I assumed that's when fans sit about the pub or club and discuss the match.

They don't take a drinks break in the middle of a frame in snooker, so the idea of "a hundred before the drinks break" doesn't make much sense to me.

In cricket it is used to mean the batsman is scoring quickly.

 

[P.J. Denyer]

Now that's a lie - plausible, but still a lie. I don't believe any Cricket match has lasted more than a decade.

Hey, I didn't claim that the next generation had to be conceived during the match (although it does clarify the rule).

 

[P.J. Denyer]

They don't take a drinks break in the middle of a frame in snooker

There never used to be any need for a drinks break during snooker. Of course times have changed-:

Ted: Ooo, and that's a bad miss.

Peter: It's very upsetting for him. Harry Vaughn, of course, is old enough to remember the days when that long walk back from the table ended in the consolation of a proper drink.

Ted: Instead, all he can do is imagine that pint at the end of the session, the cooling larger-y swallow and that first suck on a Lambert.

Peter: What a contrast, look at Harry Vaughn there, staring mournfully at his water.

Ted: Look at that, you could put a goldfish in that glass and it wouldn't even die.

 

[AnonyMoose]

According to this, Nixon is still ahead, but it seems Trump is catching up. Nixon had five and a half years in office and accumulated 55 criminal convictions of administration personnel. Trump has had - let's say - two years in office and has 35 was it?

Nixon is at 10 convictions per year.

Trump's at 17.5.

Go Trump!

Winning!

 

[Tolls]

There never used to be any need for a drinks break during snooker. Of course times have changed-:

Indeed.
Gone are the days of Higgins and his whiskey, or Werbenuik and his pints (something to do with beta-blockers, IIRC).

 

[phiwum]

Well, lets enumerate shall we... in no particular order

1. Paul Manafort - Trump’s former campaign chairman;
1 count Defrauding the US
1 count Conspiracy to commit money laundering
1 count Obstruction justice (witness tampering)
1 count Conspiracy to obstruct justice
5 counts Tax fraud
4 counts Bank fraud
5 counts Conspiracy to commit bank fraud
1 count Failing to disclose a foreign bank account
1 count Being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal
1 count Making false and misleading FARA statements
1 count Making false false statements to the FBI:
Guilty on all counts

2. George Papadopoulos: Trump's Campaign Advisor
1 count Making false statements to the FBI (Relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign)
Guilty

3. Michael Cohen: Trump's Lawyer
5 counts Tax evasion
1 count Financial Fraud (making false statements to a financial institution)
1 count Wilfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution to a political campaign
1 count Making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate.
Guilty on all counts

4. Michael Flynn: Trump's National Security Adviser
1 count Making false statements to the FBI (wrt this discussions with the Russian ambassador)
Guilty

5. Rick Gates: Trump's campaign adviser
1 count Making false statements to the FBI
1 count Conspiracy against the United States
Guilty on both counts

And we're only half way though his term, and there are likely a lot more people close to Trump in the firing line including Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kushner

ETA:

"I surround myself with the best people. I know the best people."
- Donald J. Trump, November 26, 1999)

To be fair, Cohen and Gates were never part of the administration, right?

 

[Segnosaur]

To be fair, Cohen and Gates were never part of the administration, right?

While neither was (for example) a cabinet minister or worked within the white house in an official capacity, I think they are both connected enough to Trump and the republicans to consider them part of the administration.

Cohen:

In addition to the work he did for Trump and the republicans pre-election (organizing hush money) he also acted as a go-between between various Ukranian/Russian interests and the Trump administration. Plus, he did serve as Trump's personal lawyer even after the election.

Gates:

In addition to the work he did during the election (serving as Trump's campaign manager), post-election he worked on Trump's Inauguration committee, as well as a pro-Trump PAC that was designed to promote Trump's policies. So while he didn't have an office in the white house, he was still helping Trump's agenda.

 

[Lurch]

While neither was (for example) a cabinet minister or worked within the white house in an official capacity, I think they are both connected enough to Trump and the republicans to consider them part of the administration.

Cohen:

In addition to the work he did for Trump and the republicans pre-election (organizing hush money) he also acted as a go-between between various Ukranian/Russian interests and the Trump administration. Plus, he did serve as Trump's personal lawyer even after the election.

Gates:

In addition to the work he did during the election (serving as Trump's campaign manager), post-election he worked on Trump's Inauguration committee, as well as a pro-Trump PAC that was designed to promote Trump's policies. So while he didn't have an office in the white house, he was still helping Trump's agenda.

And didn't Cohen have some official position regarding campaign finance 'til rather recently?

 

[Segnosaur]

While neither was (for example) a cabinet minister or worked within the white house in an official capacity, I think they are both connected enough to Trump and the republicans to consider them part of the administration.

Cohen:

In addition to the work he did for Trump and the republicans pre-election (organizing hush money) he also acted as a go-between between various Ukranian/Russian interests and the Trump administration. Plus, he did serve as Trump's personal lawyer even after the election.

And didn't Cohen have some official position regarding campaign finance 'til rather recently?

Deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee. Resigned in July 2018.

I was thinking of mentioning that, but I figured that particular connection was to the Republicans in general rather than Trump specifically.

 

[Lurch]

Deputy finance chairman of the Republican National Committee. Resigned in July 2018.

I was thinking of mentioning that, but I figured that particular connection was to the Republicans in general rather than Trump specifically.

Goes to at least show that Cohen was considered to be of more than just coffee boy importance in that whole circle.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Mueller will not make Comey's mistake.

 

[Drysdale]

Well, lets enumerate shall we... in no particular order

1. Paul Manafort - Trump’s former campaign chairman;
1 count Defrauding the US
1 count Conspiracy to commit money laundering
1 count Obstruction justice (witness tampering)
1 count Conspiracy to obstruct justice
5 counts Tax fraud
4 counts Bank fraud
5 counts Conspiracy to commit bank fraud
1 count Failing to disclose a foreign bank account
1 count Being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal
1 count Making false and misleading FARA statements
1 count Making false false statements to the FBI:
Guilty on all counts

2. George Papadopoulos: Trump's Campaign Advisor
1 count Making false statements to the FBI (Relating to contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign)
Guilty

3. Michael Cohen: Trump's Lawyer
5 counts Tax evasion
1 count Financial Fraud (making false statements to a financial institution)
1 count Wilfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution to a political campaign
1 count Making an excessive campaign contribution at the request of a candidate.
Guilty on all counts

4. Michael Flynn: Trump's National Security Adviser
1 count Making false statements to the FBI (wrt this discussions with the Russian ambassador)
Guilty

5. Rick Gates: Trump's campaign adviser
1 count Making false statements to the FBI
1 count Conspiracy against the United States
Guilty on both counts

And we're only half way though his term, and there are likely a lot more people close to Trump in the firing line including Donald Trump Jr and Jared Kushner

ETA:

"I surround myself with the best people. I know the best people."
- Donald J. Trump, November 26, 1999)

And this points to collusion how again?

 

[uke2se]

And this points to collusion how again?

You doing the rounds defending Trump tonight? Read the thread.