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Ed George Soros and others targetted by Terrorist

Belz... said:
Cool. You just preemptively discredited the experts just for disagreeing with your Twitter diva.
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HI! dudalb claimed that the expert we cited was contradicted by all the other experts.

there have been no other experts cited in this thread

I asked him to supply the people he referred to as experts.

that has not happened.

neither did you, despite referring to them as experts.

who are these experts?
 
BobTheCoward said:
You said "a" bomb. If we were discussing a bomb, I would agree. But these are 8 with 8 bad detonators. That is 8 failed attempts to make a bomb.
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You don't actually know that any of them had bad detonators. They may have just been timed wrong. Maybe he thought they would take longer to be delivered. Maybe they were fully functional but never turned on, and they were just intended to be a threat. You don't know that anything failed at all.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Who said no harm no foul?
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Anyone who's arguing that the bombs "aren't real" and "fake bombs".

Why else would they be arguing along that line if not to prove this whole situation isn't really all that serious and therefore it should be poo-poo'd away?

"No harm, no foul" is what they're implying by claiming "fake bombs".
 
BobTheCoward said:
You said "a" bomb. If we were discussing a bomb, I would agree. But these are 8 with 8 bad detonators. That is 8 failed attempts to make a bomb.
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If one has put fireworks explosives into a PVC pipe, one has made a bomb, whether or not one intended to.
 
The Big Dog said:
HI! dudalb claimed that the expert we cited was contradicted by all the other experts.

there have been no other experts cited in this thread

I asked him to supply the people he referred to as experts.

that has not happened.

neither did you, despite referring to them as experts.

who are these experts?
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These so-called experts, you mean?

You're really a master of twisting things to suit your agenda, I'll give you that. But other than that your posts are devoid of substance.

Oh dear. 'k. :rolleyes:
 
BobTheCoward said:
You said "a" bomb. If we were discussing a bomb, I would agree. But these are 8 with 8 bad detonators. That is 8 failed attempts to make a bomb.
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He sent all these bombs out within a relatively short period of time. If he was using a bad design at the start (or alternatively set the timer too late so that it would be discovered before going off) he would not have had time to correct his mistake between bombings/bomb deliveries.

Its not like he was the Unabomber, who's bomb making skills evolved and got more effective over the years.
 
The Big Dog said:
There would have been a time on this forum when people from all over the partisan spectrum would have been tripping over themselves to point out how spectacularly fallacious that was, indeed it is a testbook example of an ad hominem fallacy.

Oh well, I guess I will have to do it.

Cool fallacious argument tho! (yikes!)
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To identify a fallacy, you first have to identify the argument. When your argument is that an expert has a credible opinion, it isn't an ad hominem to question his expertise and his biases. You are the one pushing a fallacy, and I know that you even know the name of it.
 
Segnosaur said:
He sent all these bombs out within a relatively short period of time. If he was using a bad design at the start (or alternatively set the timer too late so that it would be discovered before going off) he would not have had time to correct his mistake between bombings/bomb deliveries.

Its not like he was the Unabomber, who's bomb making skills evolved and got more effective over the years.
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If I quickly tried to make 8 chairs with no woodworking experience, and none of them could be used as chairs, I wouldn't talk about the chairs I made. It would be the time I failed to make a chair.
 
AnonyMoose said:
Anyone who's arguing that the bombs "aren't real" and "fake bombs".

Why else would they be arguing along that line if not to prove this whole situation isn't really all that serious and therefore it should be poo-poo'd away?

"No harm, no foul" is what they're implying by claiming "fake bombs".
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Argument from ignorance fallacy.
 
The Big Dog said:
Errr... not really.

You see, part of being a 'skeptic' means that you consider the quality of the source when evaluating how much credibility to assign to expertise provided by an individual. Someone who is 1) biased, and 2) prone to conspiracy theories is someone who's expertise will have always been viewed with suspicion.

Dump this guy's 'expertise' in the same bucket as you dump Gish's expertise when talking about evolution...
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Errr, yeah, totally embarrassingly fallacious.

Former bomb disposal expert in the armed forces, but likes Trump, so

REJECTED.

:rolleyes:
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If the only fault that he had was that he liked Trump his opinions might be worth discussing. But go back and look at my posts... that is only one of several faults. He is not only a Trump fan, but he is also prone to conspiracy theories/misinformation (as I pointed out in the very post you just responded to), AND seems quite willing to overlook simple explanations that do not fit his particular views.

Again, dump his opinion in the same bucket as you would Gish's when talking about evolution, or Dylan Avery when talking about 9/11.
 
The Trump supporters have embraced the "False FLag" theory 1000%.
The descent into the irrational is truly scary.
 
Belz... said:
These so-called experts, you mean?

You're really a master of twisting things to suit your agenda, I'll give you that. But other than that your posts are devoid of substance.

Oh dear. 'k. :rolleyes:
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there was no chance whatsoever of you posting anything remotely resembling a substantive reply or naming any of the alleged experts that in fact have never once been identified in this thread.

Fantastic.
 
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