Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

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Slings and Arrows said:
I'm shocked that Joe Biden could draw a "crowd of several hundred." He managed to beat expectations by a tenfold margin. That is the same crowd size Hillary was drawing.

Well done, One-Percent Joe.
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Let's save this to see the comparisons to the Monday rally in Las Vegas. A certain B. Obama will be there in a gotv stop.
 
Anyways, speaking of mobs...

It might be worth taking a peek back at Trump, for the fun of it. Just What Were Donald Trump's Ties to the Mob?

No other candidate for the White House this year has anything close to Trump’s record of repeated social and business dealings with mobsters, swindlers, and other crooks. Professor Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian, said the closest historical example would be President Warren G. Harding and Teapot Dome, a bribery and bid-rigging scandal in which the interior secretary went to prison. But even that has a key difference: Harding’s associates were corrupt but otherwise legitimate businessmen, not mobsters and drug dealers.

This is part of the Donald Trump story that few know. As Barrett wrote in his book, Trump didn’t just do business with mobbed-up concrete companies: he also probably met personally with Salerno at the townhouse of notorious New York fixer Roy Cohn, in a meeting recounted by a Cohn staffer who told Barrett she was present. This came at a time when other developers in New York were pleading with the FBI to free them of mob control of the concrete business.

From the public record and published accounts like that one, it’s possible to assemble a clear picture of what we do know. The picture shows that Trump’s career has benefited from a decades-long and largely successful effort to limit and deflect law enforcement investigations into his dealings with top mobsters, organized crime associates, labor fixers, corrupt union leaders, con artists and even a one-time drug trafficker whom Trump retained as the head of his personal helicopter service.

Now that he’s running for president, I pulled together what’s known – piecing together the long history of federal filings, court records, biographical anecdotes, and research from my and Barrett’s files. What emerges is a pattern of business dealings with mob figures—not only local figures, but even the son of a reputed Russian mob boss whom Trump had at his side at a gala Trump hotel opening, but has since claimed under oath he barely knows.
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Slings and Arrows said:
People are already lined up for blocks. To prepare for the rally, police began barricading two blocks of streets surrounding the Toyota Center to vehicle traffic Sunday night. The streets are expected to remain closed until around 10:30 p.m. Monday.

It's gonna be one hell of a tailgate party.
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That you can only get maybe 20,000 people to show up for the leader of your party whereas your opponent just held a rally where 55,000 people attended seems pretty pathetic.
 
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Blocks Long Line of Supporters Camp Out Overnight for Trump Houston Rally

Trump supporters started lining up early Sunday morning for the President’s rally in Houston, Texas, Monday night supporting the reelection campaign of Sen. Ted Cruz. The line swelled into the evening to about a thousand or more before midnight, wrapping around several long city blocks.

The Trump campaign has been overwhelmed by the massive number of ticket requests. The rally has been relocated from the 8,000 seat NRG Arena to the 19,000 seat Toyota Center. But that was not good enough as over 100,000 tickets have been requested so an outdoor “tailgate” party is being set up outside the Toyota Center to accommodate the expected massive crowds of Trump and Cruz supporters.

-- Gateway Pundit (Oct 21, 2018)
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Outdoor Tailgate Party to Start at 9 AM!
 
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C_Felix said:
Anyone else feels the US is in a cold civil war?
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Yes. I have never seen the country so polarized. The last time the country was this divided was the Civil War but Trump has managed it. He revels in the divisiveness and feeds on it. I think he sees it as a measure of his power. If Trump truly cared for this country, he'd be working to bring us together but everything he does works to widening the chasm.
 
Safe-Keeper said:
Can someone explain to us non-Americans what a "Big Texas Tailgater" is?
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Donnie Johnny's people trying to make him one with the common man. Tailgatin' is associated with football and dad gummit but football fans loves them some demagogues. Not no eastern elite silver spoon limousine liberal trustfund babies but a real up-by-your-own-bootstraps gin-u-ine American working class hero.
 
Stacyhs said:
Yes. I have never seen the country so polarized. The last time the country was this divided was the Civil War but Trump has managed it. He revels in the divisiveness and feeds on it. I think he sees it as a measure of his power. If Trump truly cared for this country, he'd be working to bring us together but everything he does works to widening the chasm.
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I don't believe this is true. Forget the 60s? Forget the massive rallies and sit ins? Remember the division between the pro war hawks and the anti-war demonstrators? The Democratic National Convention in Chicago in 1968? Remember the massive demonstrations? I remember I-5 in Seattle being shut down by Protesters many times in the 60s/70s. What is called Red Square on the University Campus use to be this huge inviting green area but because of protesters they covered it in brick that discouraged the sit-ins. Remember Kent State? How about the battle for Civil Rights? Or before our time, the labor riots?
 
The only meaning of tailgate/tailgating I was previously aware of was driving too close to the car in front of you, so thanks for the education from me too.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
People are already lined up for blocks. To prepare for the rally, police began barricading two blocks of streets surrounding the Toyota Center to vehicle traffic Sunday night. The streets are expected to remain closed until around 10:30 p.m. Monday.

It's gonna be one hell of a tailgate party.
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Not if the streets are blocked off to traffic. No Tailgates.
 
The Houston Chronicle (semi-affectionately known as the ”Comical” to Houstonians) said,
By 7 a.m. Friday, 77,854 people had signed up for the rally, according to a person familiar with the matter.
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Let’s stipulate that this “familiar” source is correct. My prediction is that many, if not most, of the sign-ups are from people who have no intention of attending. I would expect there will be some thousands of people who show up, only some of them actually paid to do so, and that the resultant traffic snarls and mess will be loudly touted as proof of an overwhelming crowd. Trump has repeatedly lied about crowd sizes and people lined up to get into his ego-fests. I would not be surprised, in fact I expect, him to lie about this event as well.

What still astonishes me, despite the record, is that there are people who will gladly defend and apologize for this behavior. Do these people simply not care about honesty, about maturity, about the basic minimum of decent adult behavior? Evidently, some of them don’t, and some of them are merely trolls, quite a few of which we see on this forum.
 
Re: this recent Trump tweet:

“Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador were not able to do the job of stopping people from leaving their country and coming illegally to the U.S. We will now begin cutting off, or substantially reducing, the massive foreign aid routinely given to them.”

The whole concept of a country keeping people from leaving is disturbing.

Brings to my mind images of East Berlin and “The Handmaid’s Tale”.
 
Pixel42 said:
The only meaning of tailgate/tailgating I was previously aware of was driving too close to the car in front of you, so thanks for the education from me too.
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That's because you're a coastal elite out of touch with real America.
 
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