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Women's Cycling Champion is a Man

Ziggurat said:
Floor routine is a good comparison, since they both do it. But where women really excel and men wouldn't keep up is balance beam. It requires a level of spinal flexibility that men just don't have. Plus, some of the moves would be nut crushers.
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Also why the men don't compete in the uneven parallel bars routine. Add in penis crushers.
 
I think we have overlooked one sport where although men and women do not compete directly, women have really grown their side of the sport and that is MMA. Since about 2012 events with female headliners have been able to sell out large stadiums just like events with male headliners. Granted there are not as many divisions and fighters on the women's side but they do draw crowds.
 
qayak said:
I think we have overlooked one sport where although men and women do not compete directly, women have really grown their side of the sport and that is MMA. Since about 2012 events with female headliners have been able to sell out large stadiums just like events with male headliners. Granted there are not as many divisions and fighters on the women's side but they do draw crowds.
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Still separate women’s divisions. We are still not at the social place where men can beat up women and it be a-ok.


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Darat said:
Regarding the elephant, in what way? The military forces have particular physical requirements for personnel, there's no reason gender needs to come into it is there?
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Ummm, no. To pass basic training, a 17-21-year-oild male US Army recruit must post a time of 16:36 or better in the two-mile run. A female US Army recruit of the same age must post a time of 19:42 or better.
 
xjx388 said:
Still separate women’s divisions. We are still not at the social place where men can beat up women and it be a-ok.
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1- Yeah I said that.

2- Who decided it was desirable for women to compete against men?
 
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theprestige said:
If everyone is using bows with the same pull, wouldn't that replace the man's muscular advantage with excess and irrelevant muscle?

An 80-pound bow (or whatever) throws an arrow the same distance regardless of who pulls it, yes?
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Yes, but if you're stronger you can hold the draw for longer without the risk of wobbling.
 
Brainster said:
Women's Cycling Champion is a Man
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No, actually she's not.
And seriously, "Lifesitenews"? The mouthpiece for 'Campaign Life Coalition' the Canadian home of radical Catholic reactionary bigotry. Even run-of-the-mill Catholic apologists consider them nuts.
Is this a sign that you support their "traditional family values", i.e. no working women, no same-sex marriage, no protections of homosexuals, no sex education, criminalisation of homosexuality, no pre-marital sex, and no access to contraception?
 
catsmate said:
No, actually she's not.
And seriously, "Lifesitenews"? The mouthpiece for 'Campaign Life Coalition' the Canadian home of radical Catholic reactionary bigotry. Even run-of-the-mill Catholic apologists consider them nuts.
Is this a sign that you support their "traditional family values", i.e. no working women, no same-sex marriage, no protections of homosexuals, no sex education, criminalisation of homosexuality, no pre-marital sex, and no access to contraception?
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Why would you assume that someone siting a source endorses everything that the source endorses? He was citing the source in respect to the facts, nothing else.
 
luchog said:
That isn't really an artifact of the sport, but of culture, and Anglo-American culture not really valuing women in sports. As has been noted by myself and others, women's sports at any tier are overall nowhere near as popular as men's sports even at lower tiers, they don't have the exposure, money, or popular acclaim that the upper tiers of men's sports have, and likely never will without huge changes to the culture.

In the US at least, men's collegiate sports are much more popular, and bigger business, than their professional female equivalents. Continued segregation isn't really going to change that.

The problems with a mixed-gender tier system are not notable worse than the current female sporting ghetto, and may actually improve things a bit by allowing the best female athletes into the higher tiers dominated by men.

As a matter of full disclosure, I'm not particularly a fan of professional sports as a whole, sport should be more participatory, and less spectacle.
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You just mansplained sports to sports fans.

That is equality.
 
pipelineaudio said:
The factual issues with it were addressed by others. What makes me so sad is that ten years ago, we would have seen creationists react in such a predictably scripted, NPC manner. Its like we didn't learn from our fight with them, except to steal all their tactics.
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The problem with us on the left right now in a nutshell.

It was ****** when they did it, but when we are doing it is creative tactics.
 
JoeMorgue said:
Okay let's go even further down the rabbit hole. Why are all the major, organized Chess championships segregated by gender, and in some cases age?

Hell you might as well give chess weight classes for all the sense that makes.
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More men tend to pay competitively, leading to a larger talent pool, this would lead to women being sick in the bottom rungs of any ladder with possibly a few exceptions.

Segregating allows fairer competition among a smaller pool.
 
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