Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

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Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets

"I am watching the Democrat Party led (because they want Open Borders and existing weak laws) assault on our country by Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, whose leaders are doing little to stop this large flow of people, INCLUDING MANY CRIMINALS, from entering Mexico to U.S....."

"...In addition to stopping all payments to these countries, which seem to have almost no control over their population, I must, in the strongest of terms, ask Mexico to stop this onslaught - and if unable to do so I will call up the U.S. Military and CLOSE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER!.."

"...The assault on our country at our Southern Border, including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or the USMCA. Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak laws!"
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And that right there is the core of the problem. We have a president who believes that national leaders should have control over their populations.
 
Ladewig said:
And that right there is the core of the problem. We have a president who believes that national leaders should have control over their populations.
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Is Trump under the delusion that he has control over the US population?




(seems like that control is actually held by the Russians :duck:)
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
That's not even true. Trump just says it and the cult followers believe.

Mexico is going to build a wall? Nope.

Trump has a plan for better and cheaper health care? Of course he doesn't. Who believed that crap? Republicans. :rolleyes:

He won't have time for golf? :sdl:

Ban Muslims from entering the country? Thank goodness he only did a half-assed job on that one.

Bring manufacturing jobs back? Certainly not in the numbers he claimed.

Renegotiate the Iran deal? Nope. Not unless you consider not living up to the US's part of the deal "renegotiating". :rolleyes:
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Didn't he promise to prosecute Hillary Clinton?
 
Ladewig said:
And that right there is the core of the problem. We have a president who believes that national leaders should have control over their populations.
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Why do you think he likes 'Little Rocket Man' so much?
 
"Instinct" used to form beliefs is basically the exact opposite of science.
 
"I have a "natural instinct for science"
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... says the man who literally stared into the sun during an eclipse.

But to be fair there were no reports of him running screaming through the White House because he thought a monster was eating the sun.
 
Monza said:
"Instinct" used to form beliefs is basically the exact opposite of science.
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Which continues his trend of being the exact opposite of a brilliant businessman, the exact opposite of a great negotiator, the exact opposite of a "very stable genius", etc.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Trump Tweets
"...The assault on our country at our Southern Border, including the Criminal elements and DRUGS pouring in, is far more important to me, as President, than Trade or the USMCA. Hopefully Mexico will stop this onslaught at their Northern Border. All Democrats fault for weak laws!"
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So, Trump is more than willing to sink his much-applauded (mostly by him) trade deal to stop some refugees. I wonder how republicans in Congress feel about that, since at least a few are in favor of free trade.
 
TofuFighter said:
His constant repetition of these things belies the depth of that belief though. There's a tiny miserable naked little trump somewhere deep inside him who knows the truth and that no amount of comforting lies can banish.
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That’s an interesting hypothesis. Do you have any evidence to support it? I posit that it is no less likely that he has a mental disorder that limits both his empathy towards others and his ability to accurately perceive himself and his relationship to the world. There very well might be no little part of him that knows the truth.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
The latest “Trump, Inc.” podcast is quite informative.

Analysis of an 8-month-long investigation by Propublica into how the Trumps “pumped and dumped” real estate ventures in an apparently fraudulent and possibly illegal manner over the years.

I never had much of a view on Ivanka Trump one way or the other prior to this piece. Apparently, she was a wiiling accomplice in these schemes, misleading investors as to the value of properties she was trying to foist on them - often properties that never got completed.

Anyway, worth a listen.
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This is the ProPublica article, and this is a summary of the shady business dealings.

Looks like this might also be to do with money laundering:

The building’s financing depended on obtaining advance commitments from buyers, often before concrete had started pouring. But in between the sale of the bonds in 2007 and 2013, the year the building went bankrupt, buyers of 458 units in the 1,000-unit building abandoned their purchase contracts. Those buyers forfeited more than $50 million in deposits, and they never took possession of finished units. Given that the “buyers” were often shadowy shell companies or other paper entities, it was nearly impossible to discern who the actual purchasers were, let alone why they backed out.
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Ladewig said:
That’s an interesting hypothesis. Do you have any evidence to support it? I posit that it is no less likely that he has a mental disorder that limits both his empathy towards others and his ability to accurately perceive himself and his relationship to the world. There very well might be no little part of him that knows the truth.
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Agreed. I don't find the claim that some small part of Dump knows reality to be credible - at all. Mental illness and/or horrible childhood seem far more explanatory of his behavior.
 
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