The behaviour of UK police officers.

[Baylor]

<fx wears a tin hat> Can I stick my head above the parapet?

The phenomenon of the Asian gangs grooming young girls in Rotherham and elsewhere was a product of the pattern of immigration of some subcontinent groups. Their being 'Muslim' is purely concomitant with the original reason of the arrival of tens of thousands of migrants in the early 1960's. Their sole aim was to work in England for a few years, sending money back home, and then to return to marry and raise a family. Thus, this group of migrant was predominantly male, and their pattern of housing was house-sharing, so there'd be a whole household of male occupants (we saw this with some immigrants from East Europe).

Then, the government brought in a Nationality Act which allowed them to bring in their wives and families by a certain date (I think, 1963) after which time no more free migration from Pakistan/India would be allowed. Therefore, instead of returning home, they reasoned they'd bring their close relatives over. The females arrived much later. By then, there was an established culture of a handful of Asian guys buying a house and then sharing it with their fellow countrymen.

Being young males, they were sexually predatory and thus targetted indigenous females, as their own were thousands of miles away.

Unfortunately, this became an ingrained culture which became exposed in recent years as being highly criminal, abherent and organised crime against young girls.

This was not helped by social workers ignoring the girls' plight and dismissing it as their 'lifestyle choice'.

However, the crime is zero to do with 'being Muslim'.

Learn to understand cause and effect, instead of inciting hatred against Muslims.

Pseudointellectual nonsense. Never once did I say "Being Muslim causes people to rape." The argument is, "Muslims rape."

 

[Baylor]

As I previously posted

I get people here think EDL=bad. But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.

 

[Baylor]

Grossly offended. This goes beyond even very offended.

This is a joke, right?

 

[Baylor]

Back in my day I remember the greater Manchester police, they liked to spit on us when we were on a protest, they really knew how to deal with us back then. How times have changed.

Thirty years from now women will be saying, "back in my day I remember police, they liked to grandstand and peacock how 'not racist' they were. They despised me for being raped by a Pakistani Muslim because it interfered with them showing off how 'not racist' they were."

Gotta love "progress."

 

[Baylor]

True. You're just wrong.

This forum is dying. He needs these garbage posts to inflate the monthly post count to give the impression this place still has some life left in it.

 

[MikeG]

I get people here think EDL=bad.

Correct. Possibly for the first time ever.

But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.

Twaddle.

There is nothing wrong with mosques. And these aren't foreign people we're talking about. They're British. British muslims. This is where your head explodes, but it is in fact a very simple concept.

 

[MikeG]

..........They despised me for being raped by a Pakistani Muslim because it interfered with them showing off how 'not racist' they were."........

You're going to carry on doing this ****, after I told you explicitly and repeatedly how wrong you were?

 

[jimbob]

Sure. But that is the chosen hill to die upon. So be it. No skin off my nose.

Exactly, and with an odd idea of what a "gotcha" is.

Pointing out why a claim is flat-out wrong is not a gotcha. Nor is it pedantry.

 

[Darat]

I get people here think EDL=bad. But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.

In "their" city? Can you provide the Royal warrants that gifted them "their" cities?

 

[jimbob]

I get people here think EDL=bad. But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.

And in a lot of those cases - it is the EDL shipping themselves in to say that they don't want a mosque in someone else's neighbourhood. The actual inhabitants of the local area are perfectly happy for their neighbours to have a place of worship.

 

[Darat]

Thirty years from now women will be saying, "back in my day I remember police, they liked to grandstand and peacock how 'not racist' they were. They despised me for being raped by a Pakistani Muslim because it interfered with them showing off how 'not racist' they were."

Gotta love "progress."

Yet we have arrested many, many people involved in these gangs of serial rapists and we have prosecuted and imprisoned many for a long time.

By the way how many of these gangs have been prosecuted in the USA?

 

[Darat]

You're going to carry on doing this ****, after I told you explicitly and repeatedly how wrong you were?

The thing is of course she only knows about these gangs because they've been successfully prosecuted... Which of course contradicts her point that we ignore them.

Of course there is the legitimate and universal condemnation of the authorities for not taking action sooner but that's not the point her.

 

[MikeG]

In "their" city? Can you provide the Royal warrants that gifted them "their" cities?

Indeed. As Jim said, it is every bit as much the city of the muslims as the EDL. More so, in fact, because usually the EDL travel to cities where they don't live, and try to tell people who do actually live there what they should or shouldn't be doing in their own home town.

 

[MikeG]

The thing is of course she only knows about these gangs because they've been successfully prosecuted... Which of course contradicts her point that we ignore them.

Of course there is the legitimate and universal condemnation of the authorities for not taking action sooner but that's not the point her.

My apologies to Baylor. Have we missed this revelation somewhere? Not that it makes any difference to the content of my responses, but I'll be more careful with my pronouns.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Pseudointellectual nonsense. Never once did I say "Being Muslim causes people to rape." The argument is, "Muslims rape."

Ah. Correlation is not causation, right.

So what you're saying is not that being Muslim makes you a rapist, it's that being a rapist makes you Muslim. Is that it?

 

[fagin]

I get people here think EDL=bad. But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.

I'd far, far rather have a mosque next to my house than a bunch of knuckle dragging neanderthal EDL thugs living near me.

 

[Baylor]

The thing is of course she only knows about these gangs because they've been successfully prosecuted... Which of course contradicts her point that we ignore them.

Of course there is the legitimate and universal condemnation of the authorities for not taking action sooner but that's not the point her.

I haven't seen one thread about Rotherham rape gangs.

Or Rochdale
Or Teldford
Or Oxfordshire
Or Bristol
Or Derby
Or Newcastle

Yet I see a whole lot of faux outrage over "the behaviour of US police officers" and Trump allegedly locking children in cages. Even feigning concern over girls getting raped in your own country by brown people isn't conducive to the "not racist" peacocking you people love so much.

 

[Baylor]

Ah. Correlation is not causation, right.

So what you're saying is not that being Muslim makes you a rapist, it's that being a rapist makes you Muslim. Is that it?

No. What I'm saying is her post is pseudointellectual psychobabble, so is yours. She didn't even understand the context of the comment she was replying to.

 

[Baylor]

Yet we have arrested many, many people involved in these gangs of serial rapists and we have prosecuted and imprisoned many for a long time.

If the police and social workers weren't cowards and had done their job in the first place those girls wouldn't have been raped in the first place. That's the pertinent issue here.

By the way how many of these gangs have been prosecuted in the USA?

You people and your whataboutisms.

 

[fagin]

I think I'm starting to get the point of this thread.

All Muslims should be lined up and shot by True Blue USA **** Yea cops because reasons....