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The Behavior of UK Police officers.

baron said:
And the near identical case I link to, of a girl being prosecuted for posting song lyrics, is invalid because..?



I don't believe you. Aside from your statement that you don't agree with them I think you do. Everything else you have posted says to me you agree with them and you defend them.
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Do you agree you were wrong with your claim?
 
Baylor said:
Ethnic conflict is brewing in the Brittainnia

https://mobile.twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/1050253609127084032
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p0lka said:
That's the EDL isn't it?
They do this deliberately, they tend to announce they are going to march somewhere so that everyone knows they are coming, then they go and piss off ethnic minorities then film and selectively edit the reactions to make themselves look innocent.

If you knew anything about the UK you would know this.

Always check your sources.
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baron said:
That's great. However, it's a pretty big jump to advocating arrest of anybody who insults anybody else. I have no knowledge of you personally, but if you tell me that you have never insulted someone with the intent of causing distress or anxiety then I flat out won't believe you. Nor would I believe anybody else who said it.



I found it, linked to it and quoted from it. Just because you're now finding it doesn't back up your argument is not my problem.
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What law is it? Surely you can at least remember that?


Ooh, the seriousness of the crimes. Somebody was very offended.
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Grossly offended. This goes beyond even very offended.

I'll tell you what, go outside right now, find someone who is religious and say, "Anyone gullible enough to believe in a beardy bloke in the sky, his bastard son and a holey rapist absolutely deserves derision. There is no evidence at all for any of that crap."

When you're arrested, say, "Well, whilst I fully support people saying what I just said, and indeed subscribe to a website where multiple people post similar things every day without a peep of protest from me, I am very happy that I am being arrested on account of speaking 'hate' and 'gross offence'."

And seeing as you neither know nor understand the law,
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A law you are very reluctant to directly link to and quote when we are having this discussion.

That is because I bet you it does not say what you claim it does.

I'll tell you that it's not a case of online insults being seen by the authorities as lesser crimes than face-to-face because, as I posted earlier, they are deemed to be of the same severity.

(And please, before other Abbadon's jump in, I am not speaking out against what Abbadon wrote, or even the offensive claptrap that MikeG wrote. The opposite; I am standing up for their right to post such things without being arrested and carted off to a cell.

It's difficult to believe that I am forced to argue against for free speech on a site such as this. It's quite telling that the left have now usurped the position of the old right, who were all for free speech unless they disagreed with it.



Yes, we know, you think it acceptable to be criminalised for saying something very offensive. 1984.
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Grossly offensive, where what was said goes way beyond what is acceptable and is about as offensive as it is possible to be.

I had no idea I could be charged and jailed for breaking the Ts&Cs. I will request that the mods highlight that particular portion of the text because I feel it's quite important.
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You know fine well what I mean. The moderators have a different censure they can use to the Scottish legal system. But both have set limits as to what is acceptable behaviour.

Listen to yourself. And it's not just the fact you haven't a clue what free speech actually is, it's that you're more than happy to tolerate it when it suits you and see people jailed for it when it doesn't.
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Free speech does not mean you can say absolutely anything you want, as you know fine well.

Quite incredible that you haven't got a clue what free speech means, or the difference between a private forum moderating its members and the police enforcing legal regulation on the general public. I expect most senior officers in the police also have this cognitive failing.
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Obviously there is a difference in how the forum and Scottish law are run. There is a similarity that both require people to not be grossly offensive, or else sanctions will apply.
 
Baylor said:
..........Brits "couldn't care less" about much of anything, including little girls getting raped and tortured by Muslims.
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You remember that my daughter was raped, right? So when I tell you that this line of bollocks from you is starting to piss me off, you can understand it, I hope.

Let me see if I can make this perfectly clear to you: nobody gives a flying **** WHO rapes their kids. What concerns us is that they are raped at all. There is no evidence that I have seen (and certainly none that you have produced, given that you've never produced any evidence for anything at all) that Muslims rape at a greater rate than anyone else on the planet. The fact that there are Muslims in this country doesn't place my daughter at a higher risk of being raped. So if you could leave off the lie about us being apathetic about rape I personally would much appreciate it. If your daughter had been raped.........just think about that for a minute.......and some jerk on the internet kept on about how apathetic you were about it, what do you think your reaction might be?

In my own personal experience, 100% of the people who raped my daughter (after a harrowing knife and gun hostage situation that lasted 24 hours) were christians. Overtly christian, quoting the bible in justification for the rape, and declaring that in the eyes of his god they were now married. This country still has 10 christians for every muslim. Shouldn't we really be focusing a little more on the rape threat posed by christians, given that the odds of being raped by a christian are approximately ten times higher than that of being raped by a muslim?

Your attitude nauseates me. I find everything you say to be repugnant. Your twisted little world view, and your blindness to what this country is really like (as opposed to what you think it is like) make me feel rather sorry for you. I can't imagine what it's like to be so pathetically ignorant and wrong.
 
MikeG said:
YShouldn't we really be focusing a little more on the rape threat posed by christians, given that the odds of being raped by a christian are approximately ten times higher than that of being raped by a muslim?
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Absolute garbage.
 
Baylor said:
....... Apathy is a virtue in the UK. Brits "couldn't care less" about much of anything.......
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You're closer to the truth with this than you might imagine. Yep, we're a pretty laid back bunch, with not a lot upsetting us. Most people would be more annoyed and upset by their football team losing than by anything else in their lives. Well, that and the price of a pint going up. The reason we don't get upset by stuff is that generally there isn't a lot to get upset about. We all get on pretty well with each other, stuff sort-of works, and, nobody dies because they can't afford medical treatment. The stuff you imagine to be an issue just isn't, however much you want it to be.
 
baron said:
Ooh, the seriousness of the crimes. Somebody was very offended. I'll tell you what, go outside right now, find someone who is religious and say, "Anyone gullible enough to believe in a beardy bloke in the sky, his bastard son and a holey rapist absolutely deserves derision. There is no evidence at all for any of that crap."

When you're arrested, say, "Well, whilst I fully support people saying what I just said, and indeed subscribe to a website where multiple people post similar things every day without a peep of protest from me, I am very happy that I am being arrested on account of speaking 'hate' and 'gross offence'."

And seeing as you neither know nor understand the law, I'll tell you that it's not a case of online insults being seen by the authorities as lesser crimes than face-to-face because, as I posted earlier, they are deemed to be of the same severity.

(And please, before other Abbadon's jump in, I am not speaking out against what Abbadon wrote, or even the offensive claptrap that MikeG wrote. The opposite; I am standing up for their right to post such things without being arrested and carted off to a cell.
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Baylor said:
The Guardian disagrees with you.

"Ethnicity did play a part in the Rotherham abuse, not because this particular pattern of abuse is restricted to a particular group (the behaviour is typical of many gangs) but because many of those who might have taken action feared the wider, societal, consequences if they did."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/27/guardian-view-rotherham-child-abuse-scandal

So they'd rather let girls be raped than be called a racist. That is cowardice personified.

The video evidence certainly contradicts your assessment.

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<fx wears a tin hat> Can I stick my head above the parapet?

The phenomenon of the Asian gangs grooming young girls in Rotherham and elsewhere was a product of the pattern of immigration of some subcontinent groups. Their being 'Muslim' is purely concomitant with the original reason of the arrival of tens of thousands of migrants in the early 1960's. Their sole aim was to work in England for a few years, sending money back home, and then to return to marry and raise a family. Thus, this group of migrant was predominantly male, and their pattern of housing was house-sharing, so there'd be a whole household of male occupants (we saw this with some immigrants from East Europe).

Then, the government brought in a Nationality Act which allowed them to bring in their wives and families by a certain date (I think, 1963) after which time no more free migration from Pakistan/India would be allowed. Therefore, instead of returning home, they reasoned they'd bring their close relatives over. The females arrived much later. By then, there was an established culture of a handful of Asian guys buying a house and then sharing it with their fellow countrymen.

Being young males, they were sexually predatory and thus targetted indigenous females, as their own were thousands of miles away.

Unfortunately, this became an ingrained culture which became exposed in recent years as being highly criminal, abherent and organised crime against young girls.

This was not helped by social workers ignoring the girls' plight and dismissing it as their 'lifestyle choice'.

However, the crime is zero to do with 'being Muslim'.

Learn to understand cause and effect, instead of inciting hatred against Muslims.
 
Vixen said:
<fx wears a tin hat> Can I stick my head above the parapet?

The phenomenon of the Asian gangs grooming young girls in Rotherham and elsewhere was a product of the pattern of immigration of some subcontinent groups. Their being 'Muslim' is purely concomitant with the original reason of the arrival of tens of thousands of migrants in the early 1960's. Their sole aim was to work in England for a few years, sending money back home, and then to return to marry and raise a family. Thus, this group of migrant was predominantly male, and their pattern of housing was house-sharing, so there'd be a whole household of male occupants (we saw this with some immigrants from East Europe).

Then, the government brought in a Nationality Act which allowed them to bring in their wives and families by a certain date (I think, 1963) after which time no more free migration from Pakistan/India would be allowed. Therefore, instead of returning home, they reasoned they'd bring their close relatives over. The females arrived much later. By then, there was an established culture of a handful of Asian guys buying a house and then sharing it with their fellow countrymen.

Being young males, they were sexually predatory and thus targetted indigenous females, as their own were thousands of miles away.

Unfortunately, this became an ingrained culture which became exposed in recent years as being highly criminal, abherent and organised crime against young girls.

This was not helped by social workers ignoring the girls' plight and dismissing it as their 'lifestyle choice'.

However, the crime is zero to do with 'being Muslim'.

Learn to understand cause and effect, instead of inciting hatred against Muslims.
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Pseudointellectual nonsense. Never once did I say "Being Muslim causes people to rape." The argument is, "Muslims rape."
 
p0lka said:
As I previously posted
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I get people here think EDL=bad. But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.
 
Darat said:
Back in my day I remember the greater Manchester police, they liked to spit on us when we were on a protest, they really knew how to deal with us back then. How times have changed.
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Thirty years from now women will be saying, "back in my day I remember police, they liked to grandstand and peacock how 'not racist' they were. They despised me for being raped by a Pakistani Muslim because it interfered with them showing off how 'not racist' they were."

Gotta love "progress."
 
Baylor said:
I get people here think EDL=bad.
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Correct. Possibly for the first time ever.

But they have every right to not want another mosque in their city. It's perfectly normal to want to resist a foreign people with a different language, religion, values moving into your country by the millions. You're the weird one for not caring.
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Twaddle.

There is nothing wrong with mosques. And these aren't foreign people we're talking about. They're British. British muslims. This is where your head explodes, but it is in fact a very simple concept.
 
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Baylor said:
..........They despised me for being raped by a Pakistani Muslim because it interfered with them showing off how 'not racist' they were."........
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You're going to carry on doing this ****, after I told you explicitly and repeatedly how wrong you were?
 
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