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New SCOTUS Judge II: The Wrath of Kavanaugh

Agreed. Again. Just since there seems to be a lot of ignoring of this very salient point.

It is only a salient point to people who ignore his demeanor from years on the bench and the several days of testimony that proceeded it.

Or today's oral argument.

or how a nine member bench actually functions in the real world.
 
Process crimes are still crimes. If you don't want them to be change the law.

Why is the right suddenly OK with obstruction of justice, perjury, and such? Weird sense of law and order.
Are you including rape in the "and such?"
 
Too bad she never went to the police with her accurate memory of stuff that really happened.

Too bad she kept her accusations to herself, and let him get away with it, all through his time as a law clerk at the Third and Ninth Circuits, all through his fellowship with the Solictor General, all through his clerkship at the Supreme Court, all through his career in the Office of the Independent Counsel, all through his career at Kirkland and Ellis. Etc. All through his career as a Circuit Judge. Etc.

Ford is supposed to have known Kavanaugh almost her entire life. She's supposed to have remembered him clearly as the boy who tried to rape her in high school. But up until his nomination to the Supreme Court earlier this year, it never once occurred to her to go to the authorities and stop him from getting away with it. Never once did it occur to her to write to any of his other prospective employers, detailing his misconduct and influencing their hiring decision.

So I'm dubious that he's actually done anything to "get away with".
”Critical thinking”
 
Even if one regards Kavanaugh as innocent of what was alleged, the apology, on behalf of the nation, from Trump was a massive slap in the face to victims, though not surprising.
 
Well, I understand why in a thread about a new Supreme Court Justice, people would be more interested in discussing an allegation about something that happened to some high schoolers during the Reagan administration than the philosophical underpinnings of American government, or how those ideas shaped the form of our government, or how to apply those ideas to a controversial issue that will involve the judicial branch. Nevertheless, I just have this nagging feeling that if those priorities were reversed, certain problems in the current state of American political affairs might not seem so extreme.
 
This is one reason why we can't just take someone's word for it. The linked website lists thousands of people exonerated after being jailed. Often because the accuser was mistaken or just lied.

http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoneration/Pages/casedetail.aspx?caseid=3014

On February 15, 1996, a 20-year-old woman called police and said that several skinheads followed her to her home in Rancho Bernardo, California where they threatened her with a knife and raped her.

The victim identified 18-year-old Kevin Baruxes in a photographic lineup. Baruxes, who lived with his parents, had the word “skinhead” tattooed on his back. He was known to spout racist language. He had once made a racial threat against a police officer and also allegedly told the victim’s neighbor that if there were a race war, she would be killed because she was not pure white.

In June 1996, Baruxes went on trial in San Diego County Superior Court. The victim identified him as her attacker. Several family members testified that Baruxes was home with them at the time of the crime.

On June 14, 1996, a jury convicted Baruxes of rape and felony assault. He was sentenced to 18 years to life in prison because the crimes were adjudged to be hate crimes.

Five years later, Baruxes’ attorney and the San Diego County District Attorney received emails from a man who was an ex-fiancé of the victim. The ex-fiancé said that the victim admitted that the wrong man had been convicted and that the crime may never have occurred.

The prosecution and defense began re-investigating the case and found numerous other people who said that the victim was manipulative, deceptive and lied frequently. The investigation found evidence that she claimed she had cancer when she did not; that she faked epileptic seizures; that she claimed her child had died in utero during the eighth month of pregnancy, but her doctors forced her to carry it full term; and that she and her husband had buried the child on the beach.

The victim subsequently claimed to have been bitten and sodomized by Baruxes—claims that were inconsistent with the evidence and matched her pattern of escalating the details of the crime each time she was questioned. The victim also admitted that she was fairly sure that Baruxes was the wrong man.

The prosecution did not oppose Baruxes’s habeas corpus petition, which the San Diego County Superior Court then granted on July 15, 2003 and the charges were dismissed by the prosecution. In June 2004, Baruxes was awarded $258,700 in compensation by the State of California.
 
Even if one regards Kavanaugh as innocent of what was alleged, the apology, on behalf of the nation, from Trump was a massive slap in the face to victims, though not surprising.

Okay I think Kavanaugh is guilty, but the attitude that if he wasn't he should be sacrificed to some greater cause victim emotional catharsis is sickening.

He's guilty because he's guilty, not guilty because we need a symbolic effigy to throw on the fire.
 
I'm not good with uploading or whatever...or photoshop or anything apart from MSWord and typing...

Here's my pitiful attempt at Justice Blutarsky
 

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that leaves us with Dr. Ford, who identified four other people at the house, three that deny it, one says she can't remember.

Continually repeating the falsehoods do not make them any more true

Only TWO deny it, the accused (well, colour me surprised there :rolleyes: )

Ford can't remember who, what, where, when or how about it

Expert after expert has stated that THIS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL after suffering such a trauma. The important part is that she remembers who tried to rape her because she recognised them, because she already knew them. Ignoring the scientific evidence won't make it go away.
 
Well, I understand why in a thread about a new Supreme Court Justice, people would be more interested in discussing an allegation about something that happened to some high schoolers during the Reagan administration than the philosophical underpinnings of American government, or how those ideas shaped the form of our government, or how to apply those ideas to a controversial issue that will involve the judicial branch. Nevertheless, I just have this nagging feeling that if those priorities were reversed, certain problems in the current state of American political affairs might not seem so extreme.

Well, in addition to his lack of partiality and judgelyness, there's his problematic take on the 4th amendment...
 
Even if one regards Kavanaugh as innocent of what was alleged, the apology, on behalf of the nation, from Trump was a massive slap in the face to victims, though not surprising.

That's bull ****. If Kavanaugh has been falsely accused, then his accusers deserve no sympathy and Kavanaugh does. False accusers have no claim to any of the respect due to actual victims.
 
Continually repeating the falsehoods do not make them any more true

Only TWO deny it, the accused (well, colour me surprised there :rolleyes: )



Expert after expert has stated that THIS IS PERFECTLY NORMAL after suffering such a trauma. The important part is that she remembers who tried to rape her because she recognised them, because she already knew them. Ignoring the scientific evidence won't make it go away.

Guess you are not getting the whole everyone who she identified as witnesses were not supporting anything she said. Including PJ.

Expert after expert will also tell you it is perfectly normal when the accuser has been mistaken.

"colour"!
 

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