Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

[The Great Zaganza]

River, I perfectly fine with Admins banning me from right-wing forums because they don't like my posts.
I don't cry like a five-year-old that it's unfair.

If right-wingers want the big airwaves, they can pay for them.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Yeah, the ones who whine the loudest about "censorship" and "free speech" when their stuff is removed for violating rules they agreed to... will often not hesitate to ban or block you (or send hate mail or rape/death threats, for that matter) if you dare criticize their Dear Leader or their pet conspiracy theory on their home turf.

Surely TBD, River, Bogative and Ziggurat will speak out against that.

Surely.

 

[BobTheCoward]

This meme is kinda funny. but also kinda accurate. I'll say the same to you that I have to others on this topic. If you're OK with it, don't cry when it happens in reciprocal fashion. Also, don't cry when government steps in and regulates. (its going to happen)

Wait, so we have to voluntarily act like a heavy handed government has stepped in so the heavy handed government doesn't step in?

 

[Ladewig]

River, I perfectly fine with Admins banning me from right-wing forums because they don't like my posts.
I don't cry like a five-year-old that it's unfair.

If right-wingers want the big airwaves, they can pay for them.

Exactly. When some conservatives decided that Wikipedia was far too liberal to be useful, they went off and started Conservapedia.Com.

For instance, here is a segment from the Scopes Trial article:

This case illustrated the problem of fake news, as the atheist, bigoted reporter H.L. Mencken distorted what happened at the trial and misled the world about it. A review of the transcript reveals that William Jennings Bryan got the better of Clarence Darrow, and yet Mencken reported the opposite in an extreme manner. Indeed, Darrow himself gave up and asked the jury to find his client John Scopes guilty, so that the cowardly Darrow could renege on his promise to take the witness stand himself in exchange for cross-examining Bryan.

Now, the founders quickly ran into an unexpected problem. People would try to add or edit stories and Poe’s Law prevented the editors from being able to identify who was sincere and who was trying to troll them. Today, very few people are allowed to edit articles.

 

[theprestige]

Hell, Trump might start a war with Liechtenstein, if given half the chance.

But only that one country. Trump has had at least half a chance to start wars all over the place, and hasn't done so. So unless you're Liechtenstein, your prospects for peaceful relations with the US are pretty good.

 

[Belz...]

Trump has had at least half a chance to start wars all over the place, and hasn't done so.

Mostly because the heads of state of those other countries are more level-headed. Except Kim, of course.

 

[Belz...]

For instance, here is a segment from the Scopes Trial article:

I love the contrast with Wikipedia's neutral tone.

 

[alfaniner]

Meanwhile, Trump has legitimately threatened to regulate Social Media and Search Engines because they aren't automatically nice to him. This was just over a month ago.

I find the comments on The PDJT's Twitter feed to be probably the most accurate of the general feel of the public. It's sometimes hard to get past the common, daily posters who flood the feed with memes, but it is revealing to read many of the other comments.

As opposed to say, comments on any FOX News article or other site that leans a certain way.

 

[theprestige]

Mostly because the heads of state of those other countries are more level-headed. Except Kim, of course.

This is starting to sound like "war if half a chance" isn't a reasonable assessment after all.

 

[Belz...]

This is starting to sound like "war if half a chance" isn't a reasonable assessment after all.

No, it's quite reasonable. He hasn't been given half a chance yet.

You're free to disagree, but it should be obvious that I think he hasn't, since there's no war yet, and yet I still made that comment.

 

[Belz...]

I find the comments on The PDJT's Twitter feed to be probably the most accurate of the general feel of the public. It's sometimes hard to get past the common, daily posters who flood the feed with memes, but it is revealing to read many of the other comments.

I don't know. I generally don't trust social media to give me the pulse of the people.

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Nikki Haley has resigned

 

[Squeegee Beckenheim]

Lifelong Republican and foreign policy adviser to 3 Republican presidential candidates Max Boot writes about how he has come to the realisation that the liberal conception of the Republican party as racist, extremist, isolationist, etc. has been right all along

 

[Bob001]

A glimpse of the future: fewer and fewer right-wingers will have more and more power over the rest of us.

When Trump purports to apologize to Kavanaugh on behalf of the “nation” while sneeringly dismissing those claims, even as a majority opposes Kavanaugh and believes those charges, Trump is — unwittingly or not — highlighting the degree to which this episode represents the further entrenchment of minority rule. With Kavanaugh now on the court, this could very well get worse.

The New York Times reports that Trump’s unusual public apology to Kavanaugh is actually part of a broader strategy of using the battle over his confirmation to enrage and galvanize conservative voters in the midterm elections. Trump injected partisan politics into the swearing in of a justice who is supposed to remain neutral, for the explicit purpose of polarizing the country in ways he thinks will benefit his party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...inion-card-b:homepage/story-ans&noredirect=on
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

 

[Garrison]

Nikki Haley has resigned

I can picture it at the White House, "Well with the Kavanaugh business over with maybe we can get a couple of quiet days, oh look a letter from Nikki Haley…"

 

[Bob001]

Lifelong Republican and foreign policy adviser to 3 Republican presidential candidates Max Boot writes about how he has come to the realisation that the liberal conception of the Republican party as racist, extremist, isolationist, etc. has been right all along

From his column:

Upon closer examination, it’s obvious that the history of modern conservative is permeated with racism, extremism, conspiracy-mongering, isolationism and know-nothingism. I disagree with progressives who argue that these disfigurations define the totality of conservatism; conservatives have also espoused high-minded principles that I still believe in, and the bigotry on the right appeared to be ameliorating in recent decades. But there has always been a dark underside to conservatism that I chose for most of my life to ignore. It’s amazing how little you can see when your eyes are closed!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...vatism-has-taken-over/?utm_term=.41653139d585

 

[Garrison]

A glimpse of the future: fewer and fewer right-wingers will have more and more power over the rest of us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...inion-card-b:homepage/story-ans&noredirect=on
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

And this is the real issue with Trump and the current GOP, not some melodramatic agenda for the dismantlement of civil liberties, but creating a government and judiciary that has little or no connection to what the majority of people in the US want, dedicated to a rose tinted vision of the past and determined to cling to it.

 

[pgwenthold]

From his column:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...vatism-has-taken-over/?utm_term=.41653139d585

I disagree with progressives who argue that these disfigurations define the totality of conservatism; conservatives have also espoused high-minded principles that I still believe in, and the bigotry on the right appeared to be ameliorating in recent decades. But there has always been a dark underside to conservatism that I chose for most of my life to ignore.

This is where he still doesn't get it. Progressives don't claim that "these disfigurations define the totality of conservatism." They will claim, however, that those who don't have "these disfigurations" are ignoring and ultimately enabling those who do, and, therefore, they are equally culpable.

He admits that they have been right all along, and that he has ignored the problem. That is exactly why he and the others are criticized.

 

[Belz...]

And this is the real issue with Trump and the current GOP, not some melodramatic agenda for the dismantlement of civil liberties, but creating a government and judiciary that has little or no connection to what the majority of people in the US want

Doesn't that usually result in an agenda for the dismantlement of civil liberties?

 

[Bob001]

Dear Leader is master of the economy:

As most of America was glued to the final twists of the Brett M. Kavanaugh vote last Friday, the Congressional Budget Office dropped a whopper of a report. The United States federal government ran a deficit of $782 billion in fiscal 2018, the CBO said, the highest since 2012 and substantially higher than last year’s $666 billion.

This isn’t supposed to happen. The U.S. economy is humming, and a hot economy is supposed to translate into higher tax revenue and very tiny deficits. In fact, the last time unemployment was around this level — in 2000 and 1969 — the U.S. government ran a surplus.

President Trump vowed to eliminate the debt in eight years while he was campaigning for president. Instead, he is presiding over ballooning deficits, an unprecedented situation during strong economic times. In fiscal 2018, which concluded at the end of September, spending jumped 129 percent while tax receipts rose 0.4 percent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...s-too/5bbb86091b326b7c8a8d189e/?noredirect=on