Cont: The Trump Presidency X: 10-10 'til we do it again

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Bob001 said:
It always astonished me that the other Republican candidates didn't unload on Trump early. Bush, Rubio and Cruz all certainly had the resources to expose Trump. The Republican leadership was contemptuous of Trump. But they didn't take him seriously either.
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Yes but remember that the National Review did a whole issue on the disaster that a Dump presidency would be and it had no discernible effect. The lesson, then, is that what GOP leadership and conservative media, with one exception, thought had little or nothing to do with Dump's political career. That's because he and his cult members just ignored them and rode the one exception, Fox, straight into the Oval Office.

For example, remember all the pundit speculation on whether the latest gaffe was the final straw that would break the camel's back. Pussy grabbing. Slamming a gold star family. And on and on and on .... All of those would have ended other campaigns but not Dump's. There was nothing that Bush or Rubio or any other candidate could "expose" of Dump that would have stopped him since the extreme exposures that did happen did not, in fact, stop him.

One could speculate that, in fact, such exposures might have even helped him since one of his attractions was that he was "sticking it to the Man" so being unconventional and naughty, for lack of a better word, just burnished the image that made him the unassailable cult leader.
 
Aridas said:
Huh.

Bolding mine. Also, I don't have access to the full paper, so I'm unable to more deeply check the methodology and specifics.
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This is the sentence before your bolding:
By comparing within and across the election years, our analyses revealed the nature of support for Trump, including that support for Trump was better predicted by lower verbal ability than education or income.
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I'm not sure how they could conclude that since verbal ability is strongly correlated with education and income. As you say, the devil is in the details.
 
Lurch said:
Rejected by Americans at the polls, *then* summarily indicted (and arrested, for good measure) for his crimes. He cannot have too much scorn heaped upon him. A complete fraud and conman of traitorous proportion who's helping Putin to divide and wreck the US.
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This. Oh, so very much this scenario. Not just arrested but convicted and jailed. And the kids, too, as a bit of icing on the cake.
 
SezMe said:
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One could speculate that, in fact, such exposures might have even helped him since one of his attractions was that he was "sticking it to the Man" so being unconventional and naughty, for lack of a better word, just burnished the image that made him the unassailable cult leader.
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Everybody knew he was a crude jerk. For some that was his appeal, "politically incorrect" and all that. I was thinking along the lines of exposing his false public image: Commercials with Trump U. victims that he cheated and tradesmen that he stiffed, details about how he forced tenants out of buildings he took over, deep investigation into his shady financial dealings and Mafia connections, a close look at the 4,000 lawsuits he's been in, etc. Bush had a $100 millon war chest. He could have paid for plenty of oppo research.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Simply meant as a sardonic joke reply, highlighting that with all that’s going on in the world, TP on the President’s shoe seems newsworthy.

Zero hidden meaning or agenda.
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I dunno, Trump cultists probably think it's fake news because they believe Trump doesn't poop.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Wow.
Thanks to Guiliani for showcasing who's on the wrong side of history.
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Don't worry. They'll be re-writing it anyway.

newyorkguy said:
I don't want to see Trump impeached. That would make him a martyr and our politics even uglier and more divisive than they are now. I want to see him get rejected -- instead of reelected -- by the voters on November 3, 2020. Remember that date!
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Won't make a difference. Trump and his ilk have already laid the groundwork for deligitimising any election that goes against them. It'll still make politics more divisive.
 
Despite all the hyperbole, when you have a candidate (for reelection) with Trump's soft numbers, someone who managed to get themselves elected despite losing the popular vote by 2.9 million votes, everything has to line up just right. The working class/middle class anger that helped him win could flip on him. He can't afford to have many people thinking like Ms. Baker does.
Ms. Baker works at a hair salon in Stark County, Ohio, which flipped to Mr. Trump after choosing Mr. Obama twice, and she said the president was an economic disappointment. “[Trump]’s not there for the poor and the middle class,” she said, sitting on her mother’s couch in the small town of Rittman. “I thought he would be, but he’s not.” story link
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It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I have a hunch he won't win reelection. In fact, losing a bid for a second term would be as much in keeping with who Trump is, as was his surprising victory in 2016. His business career has made it clear: he's a loser not a winner. Give him enough rope and he has hung himself every time.
 
newyorkguy said:
Despite all the hyperbole, when you have a candidate (for reelection) with Trump's soft numbers, someone who managed to get themselves elected despite losing the popular vote by 2.9 million votes, everything has to line up just right. The working class/middle class anger that helped him win could flip on him. He can't afford to have many people thinking like Ms. Baker does.



It may be wishful thinking on my part, but I have a hunch he won't win reelection. In fact, losing a bid for a second term would be as much in keeping with who Trump is, as was his surprising victory in 2016. His business career has made it clear: he's a loser not a winner. Give him enough rope and he has hung himself every time.
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Now that we've confirmed that his father gave him a substantial fortune we know he's not a great businessman. The average Edward Jones broker in a strip mall could do better than Trump did with that $413 million.
 
Craig4 said:
Now that we've confirmed that his father gave him a substantial fortune we know he's not a great businessman. The average Edward Jones broker in a strip mall could do better than Trump did with that $413 million.
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He was smart enough to be born to a rich father. Were you that smart? I don't think so.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
A history professor, specialising in the Holocaust, Nazi Germany, and Europe during the world wars has written an interesting piece about the differences and similarities between Trump's presidency and the methods of the Nazis, as well as other actors like Putin
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An interesting article (and, of coure, by no means a rant). The likening of Mitch McConnel to Hindenburg is particularly telling, I think.


"If the US has someone whom historians will look back on as the gravedigger of American democracy, it is Mitch McConnell. He stoked the hyperpolarization of American politics to make the Obama presidency as dysfunctional and paralyzed as he possibly could. As with parliamentary gridlock in Weimar, congressional gridlock in the US has diminished respect for democratic norms, allowing McConnell to trample them even more. Nowhere is this vicious circle clearer than in the obliteration of traditional precedents concerning judicial appointments. Systematic obstruction of nominations in Obama’s first term provoked Democrats to scrap the filibuster for all but Supreme Court nominations. Then McConnell’s unprecedented blocking of the Merrick Garland nomination required him in turn to scrap the filibuster for Supreme Court nominations in order to complete the “steal” of Antonin Scalia’s seat and confirm Neil Gorsuch. The extreme politicization of the judicial nomination process is once again on display in the current Kavanaugh hearings."
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trump Tweets

"You don’t hand matches to an arsonist, and you don’t give power to an angry left-wing mob. Democrats have become too EXTREME and TOO DANGEROUS to govern. Republicans believe in the rule of law - not the rule of the mob. VOTE REPUBLICAN!"

"Beautiful evening in Topeka, Kansas. VOTE, VOTE, VOTE! #MAGA"
 
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