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"Thursday's hearing should be canceled in light of a disturbing new allegation of sexual misconduct against Brett Kavanaugh. The FBI must investigate ALL allegations."
-- Dianne Feinstein (Sept 23, 2018)


"Well, isn't that special?" -- The Church Lady
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Here's a new CT for you posted in the Avenatti Twitter feed:

Not very credible given how would Trump shield anyone from the Mueller probe.
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very credible, IMO, especially given how Trump isn't shielding anyone from the Mueller probe with anything but Tweets.
Also, this theory has been around ever since Kennedy announced he would step down.
 
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I'm not surprised by the circus surrounding all of this. However, if you believe the stories, or if you don't -- the way to proceed is the same. Give the people a chance to speak on record under oath. No more delays. Let them say what they have to say. Everything else is fluff.
 
Nonsense. All SCOTUS nominees should be properly vetted. Instead, the GOP is hiding documentation and rushing this process. They know this guy is crooked, which is why they are covering for him.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Nonsense. All SCOTUS nominees should be properly vetted. Instead, the GOP is hiding documentation and rushing this process. They know this guy is crooked, which is why they are covering for him.
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You have a problem with them speaking to the senate? Isn't that what they've asked for? (oh wait, democrats just want to obstruct and delay -- but we know why. obama sc appointments?)

Personally, I find the circus environment regarding a lot of the sc justices rather disappointing. I do think the accusers should get a chance to speak their peace. Lets see what happens.


On another note...

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Skeptic Ginger said:
What's the difference between a GOP "operative" vs a conservative woman voter?

Salon: CNN focus group of conservative women turns out to be comprised of GOP operatives

On Anderson Cooper no less. That's disappointing.
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On the low...this is not the only time they've done something like this (like Kavanaugh!). It's one of the major problems with CNN's reporting, that you just can't trust these "republican voters" panels to be just everyday people, rather than party operatives.

(I haven't personally heard of them doing the same with democrats, but that could easily just be the results of my own bias, and those of people I talk to/follow/etc.)
 
River said:
You have a problem with them speaking to the senate? Isn't that what they've asked for? (oh wait, democrats just want to obstruct and delay -- but we know why. obama sc appointments?)
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No where in my post did I say I have any problem with them speaking to the senate. However, where is the FBI investigation? Why are they not allowing other witnesses to testify? Why are they hiding millions of documents that Brett wrote? Why did they want the confirmation process to last only 2 weeks?

Democrats don't want a stolen SCOTUS seat, of course, but this is more than that.
 
If this man had any dignity he would withdraw. This time he has been accused of exposing himself and pushing his genitals into a woman's face. Is this really the sort of person that should be in America's highest court? What do he think his presence would do for America's image abroad, and for the reputation of the court at home?
 
thaiboxerken said:
No where in my post did I say I have any problem with them speaking to the senate. However, where is the FBI investigation? Why are they not allowing other witnesses to testify? Why are they hiding millions of documents that Brett wrote? Why did they want the confirmation process to last only 2 weeks?

Democrats don't want a stolen SCOTUS seat, of course, but this is more than that.
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There is no statute of limitations in Maryland so FBI investigation is a possibility. I'm not sure it should stop this process for many reasons. One being if he was found guilty he could easily be impeached. Two, if the witnesses are found to be lying or mistaken then no more time is wasted. My opinion is let the accusers speak to the Senate under oath and have their say. Also, if the FBI feels it's warranted start an investigation.

Some witnesses have apparently made statements.

“Simply put, Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford,” lawyer Howard J. Walsh III of Bethesda, Md., conveyed in an email

All five witnesses Dr. Ford places at scene have weighed in, now all but Ford say the incident didn’t happen. The four she names besides herself contradict her. Last witness, Leland Keyser, says she doesn’t know Kavanaugh
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Should be interesting to see how this develops.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Bull **** and I already answered this.
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Yes, it's obvious that you think it's ********. Therein lies your problem.

As i say, it's up to you how you deal with being informed by people that you've been saying something that's racist. Were it me, and were it people from every political viewpoint who were uniting to tell me that I was wrong, I think I might take a moment for reflection. How you choose to process that information or, indeed, whether you choose to process it at all, is entirely up to you.

It all depends on how concerned you are that you may have racist attitudes you hadn't previously thought about.

Apparently old white men are miffed and being stereotyped.
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If that's what you need to tell yourself, then good luck.
 
The Big Dog said:
Oh well, a never-trumper says she saw a penis, and the idiots on the panel want another delay.

Kavanaugh’s testimony started on September 4.
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You're right, we've got plenty of time before we reach 400 days so there's no reason not to have a delay. Good point. Well made.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Gang rape, eh? If good corroborating evidence of this comes out, I can't wait to see good Christian The Big Dog making light of it. Then again, I suppose gang rape is endorsed in the Bible, so it's all good.
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I make the following predictions about how he will respond, one or more of which may be correct.

1. He will completely ignore it

2. " 'K" and/or "hooboy" will feature prominently

3. He will accuse them all of lying/being involved in Liberal conspiracy to smear his heroes.
 
River said:
I'm not surprised by the circus surrounding all of this. However, if you believe the stories, or if you don't -- the way to proceed is the same. Give the people a chance to speak on record under oath. No more delays. Let them say what they have to say. Everything else is fluff.
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Why not have an investigation before testimony? What harm would that cause?
 
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