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Slings and Arrows said:
"I represent a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Mark Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify."
-- Michael Avenatti (Sept 23, 2018)


Maybe they can get Stormy Daniels to come dance when the committee breaks for lunch.

"A splendid time is guaranteed for all." -- John Lennon (Being for the Benefit of Mr. K)
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Great! And she can tell them all about Trump's tiny Mr. Toady penis!
 
Slings and Arrows said:
"I represent a woman with credible information regarding Judge Kavanaugh and Mark Judge. We will be demanding the opportunity to present testimony to the committee and will likewise be demanding that Mark Judge and others be subpoenaed to testify."
-- Michael Avenatti (Sept 23, 2018)


Maybe they can get Stormy Daniels to come dance when the committee breaks for lunch.

"A splendid time is guaranteed for all." -- John Lennon (Being for the Benefit of Mr. K)
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Seen her lately? I recommend that they eat after, if at all.
 
Oh well, a never-trumper says she saw a penis, and the idiots on the panel want another delay.

Kavanaugh’s testimony started on September 4.
 
The Big Dog said:
Seen her lately? I recommend that they eat after, if at all.
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Get yer chucks 'n yuks in while ya can, boyos. The Kavanaugh House of Kards is about to come Krashing down. That past he was annoyed to have brought up is now coming back to haunt him. I won't be surprised to see him withdraw, in order to avoid the embarrassing scrutiny. It must burn his bacon something awful to see his dream slip away. And the wasted effort by the Federalist Society after decades of careful grooming. Screw him, and them! He really should be canned from the Bench for his prior perjory and other questionable acts, not just blocked in his oh-so-desirous clamoring for the ultimate judgeship.

Blocked. Heh. You could say his own dick has cockblocked his avaricious quest for power.
 
Stacyhs said:
I disagree. So one of them served (past tense was used) on a committee and hosted a fundraiser. Another ran in and lost a GOP primary. Another served on a lowly Community Council. Right now, none of them hold any GOP office so that makes them voters.
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They're still not the average GOP-voting lady who votes for republicans because it's just how she was raised, or whatever. They don't hold office, but they're very much party activists of different stripes, on a mission to minimize and normalize that horrible behavior.

And that idiot woman who basically declared "boys will be boys" made me want to throw up. I was at plenty of parties with boys that age and not a one ever sexually assaulted me. My attacker was a man and so were the men (not boys) who exposed themselves to me. I am so sick and tired of this tendency not to hold late teen boys responsible for their "hormones" as if that gives them a free pass to assault girls.
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Thing is, most "traditionally GOP voting women" who are not party operatives/activists agree with you. That's why CNN chose the activists instead of interviewing from a pool of women leaving a grocery store or whatever.

CNN chose interviewees who they knew would say things that induced outrage in the average viewer.
 
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The Big Dog said:
Oh ****, now Avenatti is involved, this circus just went plaid.:)

Ford "was it four or two" is now joined by an actual Black Out drunk.

“Brett Kavanaugh and his penis were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and his penis looked at me!”
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That's correct. An actual black out drunk.


With witnesses.


Well, alleged witnesses. Stay tuned.
 
Lurch said:
Get yer chucks 'n yuks in while ya can, boyos. The Kavanaugh House of Kards is about to come Krashing down. That past he was annoyed to have brought up is now coming back to haunt him. I won't be surprised to see him withdraw, in order to avoid the embarrassing scrutiny. It must burn his bacon something awful to see his dream slip away. And the wasted effort by the Federalist Society after decades of careful grooming. Screw him, and them! He really should be canned from the Bench for his prior perjory and other questionable acts, not just blocked in his oh-so-desirous clamoring for the ultimate judgeship.

Blocked. Heh. You could say his own dick has cockblocked his avaricious quest for power.
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What part convinced you? The part where she was drinking or the part where she was so drunk she could not get off the floor?
 
kellyb said:
They're still not the average GOP-voting lady who votes for republicans because it's just how she was raised, or whatever. They don't hold office, but they're very much party activists of different stripes, on a mission to minimize and normalize that horrible behavior.



Thing is, most "traditionally GOP voting women" who are not party operatives/activists agree with you. That's why CNN chose the activists instead of interviewing from a pool of women leaving a grocery store or whatever.

CNN chose interviewees who they knew would say things that induced outrage in the average viewer.
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You're making a lot of assumptions as to why these women were selected and what their "mission" is. No claim was made by anyone that these women were anything more or less than GOP voters which they are.
 
Thinking about these "no man is safe from these sorts of attacks" complaints, I wonder, it was just like 1 year ago that Gorsuch was nominated for the Supreme Court, and he didn't face any of this type of crap. So not only is it not true that "no man is safe," jeez, you can't even say it is true about all Supreme Court nominees from Georgetown Prep.

What do you think it is about Gorsuch that made him different? Because democrats liked him? Ha, that's a joke. Or maybe, just maybe, Kavanaugh has issues in his past that Gorsuch didn't have?
 
Stacyhs said:
You're making a lot of assumptions as to why these women were selected and what their "mission" is. No claim was made by anyone that these women were anything more or less than GOP voters which they are.
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Yes, I'm surmising, but the possibility that it's just a coincidence that they're activists/operatives is really, really outlandish.
 
LSSBB said:
I don't support meadmaker's reasoning, because it is all Holmsian sleuthing with no real facts to back it up,
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Fair enough, but that's kind of the point. No real facts to back it up.

plus seems to be driving toward only two possible outcomes: one or the other main party is lying. The actual occurrence may not match either of their stories,
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As we read through these pages, sometimes it's hard to separate out what people actually say from the mischaracterizations about what they say. I don't think it is necessarily true that one party or the other is lying.

I agree with you. While I find it plausible that she might be lying, I think it is more likely, and said, that it's a case of conflated memories. My main point about the Ford allegations is that we don't have enough evidence to conclude that it's true. I've gone one step farther than that as well, saying that I think it is not true that it happened as she said it did. That doesn't mean that no part of it is true, or that it's a complete fabrication. I just find enough contradictions in her story that I can't accept the entire thing as being true.

A lot of the confusion comes from the various uses of "plausible", "credible" and "true".
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
So now it wasn't bad enough because a worse thing happened to you? :boggled:
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I'm always amused at the inferences people can draw.



Stacyhs ended her comment to me with the question, "You're a man, right?"

Now, I always hate to put words into a person's mouth, but it seemed to me that she was saying that, as a man, I couldn't understand the perspective of a sexual assault victim. I take exception, for two reasons. First, I don't think you need to be a sexual assault victim in order to understand what they might think. Second, as it turns out I am a sexual assault victim, so I'm not sure how my status as a man is relevant.
 
Feinstein's latest request is for "an immediate postponement of any further proceedings related to the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh". Ford's attorney's might say the same. So, again, Ford testifying looks unlikely.

Other Democratic Senators are asking him to just withdraw.

Haven't seen anything from Republicans, even from Grassley's weird tweets. The White House was already aware as well and was still pushing for Kavanaugh.

Per people in contact with him, Trump was briefed earlier today on the allegations in the New Yorker piece. Per one person briefed on the discussions, Trump said this is why they should have been fighting the Ford allegations from the beginning.

Trump is calm, two of the people in touch with him say, and sticking with Kavanaugh. But there is drama between Kavanaugh team and some White House aides, who Kavanaugh team blame for WaPo leak out of their moot session last week.
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Linky.

But though McConnell was dedicated to "plow right through" when he saw the chance, I would think he would tell him to withdraw if he saw he wouldn't have the votes.
 
The Big Dog said:
Well, no witnesses and numerous people saying it did not happen, plus she never told her best friend.
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Stay tuned. There are actual names and verifiable, or refutable, elements in the New Yorker story. Lots of questions to be asked.


Kavanaugh denies it completely, which once again eliminates one line of argument. It isn't about whether he did something obscene thirty five years ago. It's about whether he lied about it this afternoon.
 
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