Cont: Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator Part 3

[LTC8K6]

I would love for there to be such a magically technology unfortunately as Mills has clearly shown - there isn't.

Even if it works well, I'm not too crazy about having the Sun in or near my house, even in miniature form.

 

[Darat]

It's pretty sad when markie's best argument is a super-villainish "You'll rue the day!" type rant.

Have to give him this he maintains the facade of "merely interested bystander" very well but then every so often he slips up, it's like the post when he was praising Mills being the greatest ever, his inner worshiper cant always be supressed.

 

[Armitage72]

Nope. He’s spent decades promising imminent commercialization when he apparently never even had a stable reaction. Every promise he ever made about manufacturing, and there have been many, were lies. He doesn’t deserve an apology for being viewed as a fraud when he’s spent years acting like one.

I was recently rereading an old magazine from 1985, in which someone wrote a letter claiming "there's a researcher who says that he will have a working fusion motor that will go in a pickup in 5 years, and one for a car in 8."
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

 

[markie]

Nope. He’s spent decades promising imminent commercialization when he apparently never even had a stable reaction. Every promise he ever made about manufacturing, and there have been many, were lies. He doesn’t deserve an apology for being viewed as a fraud when he’s spent years acting like one.

False. Mills has had reactors going for months, whether it was heat produced by the nickel tube cells in the mid 1990s or the gas/plasma cells around 2000 or the CIHT cells that produced electricity directly around the 2012 timeframe. But he was not successful in raising the power density of these devices to be marketable, although he was confident he could at the time. Why was he confident? Because he is incredibly good at solving problems. But some problems were beyond even his reach.

He stabilized the open SunCell at low power months ago. He achieved the closed SunCell perhaps two weeks ago and now he is working on stabilizing that.

Again, you have the patience of a toddler.

 

[markie]

I'd write profuse apologies that I ever doubted him.

All I need is evidence.

Really think that you fundamentally do not understand a critical thinking and skeptical approach.

All any of us in this thread needs to change our minds is evidence. Nothing more but certainly nothing less.

You're probably in the minority. Good for you but bad for them.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

markie, that's just a pack of lies. There is no confirmation of any of that except from the liar himself. And it contradicts the quotes we showed you just yesterday. markie, you're not just parroting Mill's lies, you're doing your own lying here. Why don't you stop?

 

[markie]

Do I recall correctly that the bulk of hydrino energy is off into the ultraviolet and upward? Wasn't that part of one of Mills' many lies where he reported tell-tale UV spectral lines using an instrument incapable of such measurements?

Over the years there have been many different UV spectrometers used, in many labs, in matters related to hydrino. Results are consistent with hydrino formation signature in the eUV and soft X-ray frequencies.

 

[Red Baron Farms]

No mention of introspection or letters of apology to Mills and others you have dissed. Unfortunately I'm not surprised.

No need for such things Markie. Mills commands no respect and should be arrested and thrown in jail.

Yes you heard it correctly Markie.

Why you say? (forgive the minor strawman)

Oh that's easy.....

There are only two possibilities

1)Hydrinos are real
a)This means Mills has been holding the technology from humanity. His selfish refusal to produce a working energy producing machine and make it available to humanity has caused hundreds and maybe even thousands of species to go extinct, as well as many many human deaths due to poverty and/or ecological degradation caused by other dangerous and unclean forms of energy. Hang him I say!

2)Hydrinos are not real
a)This means Mills is running an elaborate scam to steal tens of millions of dollars from gullible and naive parties who really do want to do good for society. This alone merits jail time for sure, not to mention civil suit for return of assets stolen by fraud. But even worse than that, it also reduced by 10's of millions the philanthropists' and angel investors' offerings to worthy projects that really are or could really make significant improvements to society. Real people are suffering/dying needlessly because of Mills. Once again, hang him!

Edit to add: Of course we all know that it is the second case, not the first. All except you?

 

[markie]

The Wright Brothers produced mainstream technology, but it turns out they were kind of secretive dicks about it. We don't need to apologize for calling them dicks, just because they were they were the first to produce an airplane.

They had their reasons to be secretive. Your oh so easy armchair attempt at character assassination to those actually doing the work speaks volumes.

 

[markie]

Disagreeing with Mills and pointing out that he has produced nothing tangible for decades is no reason to apologize to him.

Has Mills ever apologized for all the claims not met? Is he sorry for the number of times he has said he was ready for production and then produced nothing?

Mills could do with some apologizing himself, imo.

Is he sorry about the body scanner and the cancer cure claims?

The only two groups paying any attention at all to Mills are the believers and the skeptics, which means the skeptics will be the first non-believers to know if Mills has any success.

Skeptics will almost certainly be the first non-believers to announce a successful Mills power generator, if it ever appears.

Mills has admitted he has taken some wrong turns in his energy research. This in almost inevitable in pioneering work. It is interesting that you have written off his medical invention ideas, when they could very well still be taken up by interested parties and further developed. Mills decided that problems related to energy generation were more important to work on.


Pseudo skeptics will not be the first non-believers to announce anything. They and everyone else will hear it announced from mainstream science outlets and the press, and then they and everyone else will believe it.

 

[markie]

Have to give him this he maintains the facade of "merely interested bystander" very well but then every so often he slips up, it's like the post when he was praising Mills being the greatest ever, his inner worshiper cant always be supressed.

Let me 'slip up' again and call Mills the most impressive man in science since, who? Maxwell was a great theoretician, but not an inventor. Edison was a great inventor but not a theoretician. Mills is both, originating theory and engaging in both pure and applied research that will rock the world.

 

[Myriad]

What I wonder is, when Mills' SunCell is proven technology in the mainstream, will skeptics here continue to bemoan the fact that Dr. Mills didn't get there sooner as he anticipated with previous iterations of hydrino technology? Or will they instead realize that in all those years, despite lack of predicted commercialization, he was nonetheless successful at increasing the power density of the hydrino reaction from year to year, from one technique to another, and acquiring the experience to finally hit on a method to achieve massive reaction kinetics and power density, in an environment known as the SunCell? Time will tell.

We'll all be way too busy scrounging for canned goods across the hydrino-blasted wasteland and licking our incurable weeping hydrino sores and running from hydrino-mutated giant cockroaches and listening for the distinctive whistle of incoming hydrino bombs to celebrate Mills's under-appreciated genius.

 

[Pixel42]

Pseudo skeptics will not be the first non-believers to announce anything. They and everyone else will hear it announced from mainstream science outlets and the press, and then they and everyone else will believe it.

When?

 

[markie]

No need for such things Markie. Mills commands no respect and should be arrested and thrown in jail.

Yes you heard it correctly Markie.

Why you say? (forgive the minor strawman)

Oh that's easy.....

There are only two possibilities

1)Hydrinos are real
a)This means Mills has been holding the technology from humanity. His selfish refusal to produce a working energy producing machine and make it available to humanity has caused hundreds and maybe even thousands of species to go extinct, as well as many many human deaths due to poverty and/or ecological degradation caused by other dangerous and unclean forms of energy. Hang him I say!

2)Hydrinos are not real
a)This means Mills is running an elaborate scam to steal tens of millions of dollars from gullible and naive parties who really do want to do good for society. This alone merits jail time for sure, not to mention civil suit for return of assets stolen by fraud. But even worse than that, it also reduced by 10's of millions the philanthropists' and angel investors' offerings to worthy projects that really are or could really make significant improvements to society. Real people are suffering/dying needlessly because of Mills. Once again, hang him!

Edit to add: Of course we all know that it is the second case, not the first. All except you?

Incredible that even a man of the soil, someone who I would expect to be down to earth, arrives at those two 'possibilities' where Mills is demonized either way. What a shame.

 

[halleyscomet]

False. Mills has had reactors going for months, whether it was heat produced by the nickel tube cells in the mid 1990s or the gas/plasma cells around 2000 or the CIHT cells that produced electricity directly around the 2012 timeframe. But he was not successful in raising the power density of these devices to be marketable, although he was confident he could at the time. Why was he confident? Because he is incredibly good at solving problems. But some problems were beyond even his reach.

He stabilized the open SunCell at low power months ago. He achieved the closed SunCell perhaps two weeks ago and now he is working on stabilizing that.

All you've done is prove he's recycling old claims. All he's done is swap out some of the materials he's claming to use.

Again, you have the patience of a toddler.

Dude, the toddler is in their 30's now. How much longer are YOU going to keep the faith in Mills?

At what point do you give up and admit he's either a liar or a moron?

 

[halleyscomet]

Incredible that even a man of the soil, someone who I would expect to be down to earth, arrives at those two 'possibilities' where Mills is demonized either way. What a shame.

Fair point. Red Baron Farms missed the possibility that Mills could simply be a charismatic moron. Too stupid to realize his ideas are nonsensical garbage, but charming and persuasive enough to convince others he may be onto something.

Alternately, the entire BLP enterprise could be a mob money laundering operation. He IS in New Jersey after all.

 

[LTC8K6]

Mills has admitted he has taken some wrong turns in his energy research. This in almost inevitable in pioneering work. It is interesting that you have written off his medical invention ideas, when they could very well still be taken up by interested parties and further developed. Mills decided that problems related to energy generation were more important to work on.


Pseudo skeptics will not be the first non-believers to announce anything. They and everyone else will hear it announced from mainstream science outlets and the press, and then they and everyone else will believe it.

Pioneering really doesn't seem an accurate description.

I don't think 30 years without a commercially available device is pioneering, but maybe that's just me.

Well, if there's 300 years to go, then maybe the first 30 years are the pioneering years?

Mainstream science is not going to accept anything from Mills now imo, unless the device is already running a factory or a train or something, by itself.

30 years of promises without a delivery is hard to overlook by the science community.

 

[LTC8K6]

False. Mills has had reactors going for months, whether it was heat produced by the nickel tube cells in the mid 1990s or the gas/plasma cells around 2000 or the CIHT cells that produced electricity directly around the 2012 timeframe. But he was not successful in raising the power density of these devices to be marketable, although he was confident he could at the time. Why was he confident? Because he is incredibly good at solving problems. But some problems were beyond even his reach.

He stabilized the open SunCell at low power months ago. He achieved the closed SunCell perhaps two weeks ago and now he is working on stabilizing that.

Again, you have the patience of a toddler.

Markie, not being marketable has nothing to do with a Nobel Prize...
Low power, either...

If I had confirmed low power cold fusion, I'd be rich and famous, without anything marketable.

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Yeah, there is really no denying that Mills is covering this up from the world. He has certainly claimed to have devices that would prove his claims even if they aren't marketable. If he's not lying he really is doing both his investors and the world a disservice by failing to reveal what he has to the world.

 

[halleyscomet]

Markie, not being marketable has nothing to do with a Nobel Prize...
Low power, either...

If I had confirmed low power cold fusion, I'd be rich and famous, without anything marketable.

That gets us back to the fact that if Mills isn't a con man, he's a moron.