Atheists destroy churches, attack the faithful

Have you noticed that TBD has stopped referring to the alleged Atheist Bible?!
 
dann said:
Have you noticed that TBD has stopped referring to the alleged Atheist Bible?!
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Golly! You nailed it, pretty cool observation. Say, maybe it was when TBD posted that he was mocking an argument, and in fact specifically linked to that post in a reply to you and explained that he was mocking an insipid argument, and will be DELIGHTED to link to it again if you need it.

Hey everyone, TBD is mocking posts referring to the atheist bible!

Have you noticed that TBD was mocking those posts?? Hello!!

Dann asked me to repeat that I was mocking arguments. Super post!
 
arthwollipot said:
Look. You have as much chance of convincing us that atheism is behind the atrocities committed by the Chinese totalitarian dictatorship than we have of convincing you that clouds are made of cupcakes. Why are you bothering?
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I dunno, he believes in invisible beings that control the universe so............
 
arthwollipot said:
Look. You have as much chance of convincing us that atheism is behind the atrocities committed by the Chinese totalitarian dictatorship than we have of convincing you that clouds are made of cupcakes. Why are you bothering?
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You think I am trying to contradict this:

"Yeah, it is. But the idea that you think that this is characteristic of atheism rather than an activity of the totalitarian government of China is even more appalling."

It was posted that my internet post was "more appalling" than putting a million people in a ******* re-education camp.

I know I have zero chance of convincing anyone who would agree with that of anything, and I am totally fine with it.

Because internet posts are more appalling than putting a million people in a ******* camp.
 
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arthwollipot said:
Then again I ask: Why are you bothering?
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well, obviously, because assertions like this:

"Yeah, it is. But the idea that you think that this is characteristic of atheism rather than an activity of the totalitarian government of China is even more appalling."

are beyond specious, obviously. One must take a stand and explain that no, an internet post, even one that is critical of atheists (shock horror!) is in no way more appalling than actual human rights abuses. That is why one bothers.
 
Ugh. I can't believe I'm doing this.

Again.

What I find "appalling" is that you deliberately and with intent misattribute the source of the atrocities to atheism rather than to its real source, which is totalitarian cultural imperialism.

It is appalling that such violence is continuing, yes. But I am equally appalled, if not more appalled, that you deliberately and with intent distract those who seek to understand it and end it. By such distracting tactics you are in fact contributing to the perpetuation of the violence. And I am equally appalled, if not more appalled, that you do this for selfish ideological reasons rather than logic- and evidence-based reasons.

If you really cared about ending the atrocities, you would honestly seek its true source. But you don't. All you care about is spreading the hateful and ideological lie that atheists commit atrocities against the religious.

And with that, I am officially done.
 
The Big Dog said:
well, obviously, because assertions like this:

"Yeah, it is. But the idea that you think that this is characteristic of atheism rather than an activity of the totalitarian government of China is even more appalling."

are beyond specious, obviously. One must take a stand and explain that no, an internet post, even one that is critical of atheists (shock horror!) is in no way more appalling than actual human rights abuses. That is why one bothers.
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The perpetuation of actual human rights abuses by seeking deliberately to distract people from their true causes is ABSOLUTELY more appalling than the human rights abuses themselves, ESPECIALLY when it is done in the name of a hateful ideology.

And with that, I am really truly officially done.
 
Don't let TBD sophistry get to you. I think most of the forum can see right through the fallacies, mischaracterizations and dishonesty.
 
arthwollipot said:
Ugh. I can't believe I'm doing this.

Again.

What I find "appalling" is that you deliberately and with intent misattribute the source of the atrocities to atheism rather than to its real source, which is totalitarian cultural imperialism.

It is appalling that such violence is continuing, yes. But I am equally appalled, if not more appalled, that you deliberately and with intent distract those who seek to understand it and end it. By such distracting tactics you are in fact contributing to the perpetuation of the violence. And I am equally appalled, if not more appalled, that you do this for selfish ideological reasons rather than logic- and evidence-based reasons.

If you really cared about ending the atrocities, you would honestly seek its true source. But you don't. All you care about is spreading the hateful and ideological lie that atheists commit atrocities against the religious.

And with that, I am officially done.
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Folks, just so we are all on the same page:

actual violence is less appalling than internet posts. Lets take another look!

"It is appalling that such violence is continuing, yes. But I am equally appalled, if not more appalled."

Equally if not MORE appalled than violence.... wait, my internet posts are equal if not more appalling than "such violence"???

Huh, well folks there you have it violence is less appalling than internet posts.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Don't let TBD sophistry get to you. I think most of the forum can see right through the fallacies, mischaracterizations and dishonesty.
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Hell, we have learned that criticizing atheists is more appalling than violence and putting a million people in a camp.

Great arguments
 
The Big Dog said:
Actually, we have any number of apologists defending it in this thread, whether it be by arguing that it is inconsequential by saying that a post on the internet is "more appalling," or explaining the "logic" behind it, or saying that they were only attacking dissident groups, or by saying that the Chinese were correct to do so because "theocracy, etc" or desperately trying to derail the issue through the most spectacular series of whataboutism that should embarrass a junior high logic class, or by attacking the messenger.
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You're still sayin false things: no one has said that the Chinese authorities "did the right thing". Cite one comment that says that. There is not. It is widely believed that, at the very least, the closure of churches is a violation of religious freedom due to a police state.
In this, you are a very Christian, Brother Big Dog. Mother Chruch sais: if lying is good for your faith, you lie.
 
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The Big Dog said:
Hell, we have learned that criticizing atheists is more appalling than violence and putting a million people in a camp.

Great arguments
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If you think that my post was complaining about you criticising atheists instead of...

how dare...

No. I'm done. I'm done. I don't need this. I'm going to put this thread on ignore now.
 
The Big Dog said:
You think I am trying to contradict this:

"Yeah, it is. But the idea that you think that this is characteristic of atheism rather than an activity of the totalitarian government of China is even more appalling."

It was posted that my internet post was "more appalling" than putting a million people in a ******* re-education camp.

I know I have zero chance of convincing anyone who would agree with that of anything, and I am totally fine with it.

Because internet posts are more appalling than putting a million people in a ******* camp.
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Have you actually read this statement carefully? Because it doesn't seem to mean what you think it means. ;)
 
The Big Dog said:
These particular million Muslims are not obeying their government, stick them in a camp!
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Muslims are persecuted in China because their separatist movement, terrorism included.
Although religious education for children is officially forbidden by law in China, the Communist Party allows Hui Muslims to have their children educated in Islam and attend mosques; the law is enforced for Uyghurs. After secondary education, China allows Hui students to study with an imam. China does not enforce the law against children attending mosques on non-Uyghurs outside Xinjiang. Since the 1980s Islamic private schools (Sino-Arabic schools (中阿學校)) have been permitted by the Chinese government in Muslim areas, excluding Xinjiang because of its separatist sentiment. (From Wikipedia]
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