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Cont: The Trump Presidency IX: Nein, Nein!

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dudalb said:
Cain does not do evidence.
And Until recently, Cain swung pretty much to the left politically. I think his sudden reversal smells of Troll.
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My impression is that he alternates. A Hindu god with two avatars? A poster who swings both ways?

I tend to view his posts not as a "trolling" but as a "poeing."

I can't call up a smily face right now but mods - I offer this insight as amusement, not as an accusation.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Film of trump claiming he helped to search for survivors at the WT and and help clear rubble are trending on twitter and Facebook.
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I was trying to find that - do you have a link?

I did find something indicating Trump may be a truther - he believes there were bombs on the planes that took out the WTC.

Without getting into a big CT discussion, since I am nowhere near up to speed, is there a stronger bomb than a 747 with a tank of fuel hitting a building at 500 mph? Trump seems to think yes, to get through the steel cladding. But it sounds like nonsense to me. I'd imagine that the plane itself was such an effective bomb that further bombs would have marginal if any effect.
 
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Well, Trumps numbers with Independents have him slightly more popular than cholera. Increasingly he only has his hardcore base behind him.
 
dudalb said:
Cain does not do evidence.
And Until recently, Cain swung pretty much to the left politically. I think his sudden reversal smells of Troll.
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I kind of like the idea of reverse troll engineering. Figure out how memes stick, apply counter-memes, or else just swamp the Internet with so much garbage, ideologically all over the place, that people build up an immunity.

OTOH the Internet is already swamped with nonsense, so maybe it would have no effect.

I did see a pro-Trump post with such glaringly ridiculous "reasoning" that I thought practically anyone would see straight through it. It could have been meant absolutely sincerely, though.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
Film of trump claiming he helped to search for survivors at the WT and and help clear rubble are trending on twitter and Facebook.

How did he manage that when he was in Jersey watching dancing muslims?
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Captain_Swoop said:
remember what he actually said on 9/11?

He said "My building was the second tallest and now it's the tallest"

Such empathy.

he also boasted about his contributions to appeals and charities for survivors but actually donated not a dollar himself.
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He lied about several things concerning 9/11 and himself. There's a list of them in the link:

At a rally in 2016, Trump said this:


“Everyone who helped clear the rubble — and I was there, and I watched, and I helped a little bit — but I want to tell you: Those people were amazing,” Trump said. “Clearing the rubble. Trying to find additional lives. You didn’t know what was going to come down on all of us — and they handled it.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-it-for-personal-gain/?utm_term=.07d8c23c90b8
 
Minoosh said:
I kind of like the idea of reverse troll engineering. Figure out how memes stick, apply counter-memes, or else just swamp the Internet with so much garbage, ideologically all over the place, that people build up an immunity.

OTOH the Internet is already swamped with nonsense, so maybe it would have no effect.

I did see a pro-Trump post with such glaringly ridiculous "reasoning" that I thought practically anyone would see straight through it. It could have been meant absolutely sincerely, though.
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Problem is Cain has a long history of saying crap just to upset people.
 
Looks as if Trump attacks on Woodward might end up making Woodward a ******** of money:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ente...bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.26898e37a648

And the article does not even try to cover the kindle and ebook sales, which nowdays often are bigger then the paper copy sales.

Nice going Donnie. You gave Woodward and his book the kind of publicity that money quite literraly could never buy.

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Stacyhs said:
He lied about several things concerning 9/11 and himself. There's a list of them in the link:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...-it-for-personal-gain/?utm_term=.07d8c23c90b8
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The man is a superhero... or he should be.
Is there by chance, somewhere, a study or trial going on involving radioactive spider bites, or ludicrously excessive Gamma radiation exposure that we can get the President signed up for?
Doesn't even have to be a large study group. Or even have anyone else enrolled... just our POTUS would be enough.
I say we owe that to the man... for all he's done for to us.

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dudalb said:
Looks as if Trump attacks on Woodward might end up making Woodward a ******** of money:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ente...bd52dfe917b_story.html?utm_term=.26898e37a648

And the article does not even try to cover the kindle and ebook sales, which nowdays often are bigger then the paper copy sales.

Nice going Donnie. You gave Woodward and his book the kind of publicity that money quite literraly could never buy.

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Hell, the only reason why I haven't ordered the book is that in 5 years time there'll be no point in reading it again.
 
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Cabbage said:
But some things objectively are bunk. Looking at the percentages alone ignores that fact.
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Another fact that wasn't mentioned is that the Republican party is shrinking significantly because of how extreme the party has become.
 
There is another economic milestone Trump can take credit for hitting (legitimately this time) in time for the elections:

The Republican Party has railed against deficits and spending for decades and GOP presidents and Congressional leaders have worked to cut spending. When given the bank, however, President Donald Trump and the Republican Congress have delivered spending that will usher the U.S. into a $1 trillion deficit two years before expected.

According to an Axios report, the Congressional Budget Office numbers revealed the deficit exploded by $222 billion in just one year.


The Republican tax bill is the culprit, increasing spending by 7 percent while incoming revenue is only at 1 percent.

“The CBO now says the deficit will approach $1 trillion by the end of this fiscal year, but in April the agency didn’t expect the deficit to reach $1 trillion until 2020,” Axios reported.

The Republican Congress announced this week that they want to pass part two of their tax plan. The preliminary estimations show that alone will skyrocket the deficit to $2 trillion.
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Linky.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Another fact that wasn't mentioned is that the Republican party is shrinking significantly because of how extreme the party has become.
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I've seen images of the crowds at about the last 5 Ted Cruz rallies and from about 10 different Beto rallies. Everyone and I mean everyone at a Cruz rally is white. And almost everyone is old...like 65 to 90. Whereas Beto's rallies they were mixed and one hell of a lot younger. I couldn't help wondering when the GOP implodes in Texas on demographics? Simple mortality rates appear to doom them.
 
acbytesla said:
I've seen images of the crowds at about the last 5 Ted Cruz rallies and from about 10 different Beto rallies. Everyone and I mean everyone at a Cruz rally is white. And almost everyone is old...like 65 to 90. Whereas Beto's rallies they were mixed and one hell of a lot younger. I couldn't help wondering when the GOP implodes in Texas on demographics? Simple mortality rates appear to doom them.
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A couple more generations, but they are doing their best to solidify political/judicial power so that the minority white men can rule over the rest of us reminiscent of South Africa.
 
dudalb said:
Nice going Donnie. You gave Woodward and his book the kind of publicity that money quite literraly could never buy.
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Woodward is 75 years old and a multi-millionaire from 18 previous books. He's not doing it for the money.
 
varwoche said:
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Same here, until Trump. He is so over-the-top cartoonish -- on top of his many other outlandish negative attributes -- that he invites it and deserves it. I can't really defend this as mature or productive, but that's my thinking.
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I called Bush "Dubya", but not as an insult. Simply a useful nickname.
 
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