Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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Squeegee Beckenheim said:
You are again ignoring salient points that contradict what you'd like to believe in order to focus on just one that you feel you can dispute. And, again, you are wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-.../missing-servers-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/



https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/07/17/dnc-server-hack-russia-trump-2016-219017



You should read the rest of that article.

Oh, you also appear to have abandoned the argument that it wasn't Russia because Assange said it wasn't Russia. FWIW, Putin said it wasn't Russia, too. And Kim Jong-Un has said that he is denuclearising.
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So again from your article we're left with a choice of who to believe? Comey the former head of FBI or a dnc spokesperson. Which is telling the truth? Comey was under oath.
 
River said:
So again from your article we're left with a choice of who to believe? Comey the former head of FBI or a dnc spokesperson. Which is telling the truth? Comey was under oath.
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Or all the intelligence agencies of the US and Western world. Such a dilemma.
 
uke2se said:
Or all the intelligence agencies of the US and Western world. Such a dilemma.
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False. The reports were accepted by the FBI from private entities crowdstrike and fusiongps. No government agencies inspected the servers or authenticated the reports made by those two entities.
 
River said:
False. The reports were accepted by the FBI from private entities crowdstrike and fusiongps. No government agencies inspected the servers or authenticated the reports made by those two entities.
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Stupid stupid FBI. If they would only listen to internet conspiracy theorists.
 
River said:
So again from your article we're left with a choice of who to believe?
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Yes, partisan right-wingers with a vested interest in denying the truth, or partisan and non-partisan people from both sides of the political spectrum whose testimony is backed up by actual evidence?
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Yes, partisan people with a vested interest in denying the truth, or partisan and non-partisan people whose testimony is backed up by actual evidence?
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So you choose to believe DNC spokesperson over James Comey who testified under oath that they received no server? Cool.
 
River said:
So you choose to believe DNC spokesperson over James Comey who testified under oath that they received no server? Cool.
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I choose to believe the evidence, and the people from both sides of the political spectrum, as opposed to the partisan right-wingers who ignore the evidence. You know, like you're doing.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I choose to believe the evidence, and the people from both sides of the political spectrum, as opposed to the partisan right-wingers who ignore the evidence. You know, like you're doing.
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So it's your position that James Comey lied under oath when he said they did not receive the DNC server. Got it.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
I choose to believe the evidence, and the people from both sides of the political spectrum, as opposed to the partisan right-wingers who ignore the evidence. You know, like you're doing.
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It might also be noted, I voted for Obama back in his terms. I'm not a "right winger". I do however value the truth.
 
River said:
It might also be noted, I voted for Obama back in his terms. I'm not a "right winger". I do however value the truth.
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You are a by all appearances a Trumpist, and those aren't really known for valuing actual truth, but rather "truthiness".
 
River said:
So it's your position that James Comey lied under oath when he said they did not receive the DNC server. Got it.
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You'd better watch out, because I'm sure the Big Dog will be right along to point out the "rule of so".

Aaaany minute now...
 
River said:
So you choose to believe DNC spokesperson over James Comey who testified under oath that they received no server? Cool.
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I'm curious how you've come to believe the two statements are mutually exclusive.

DNC spokeswoman Adrienne Watson told PolitiFact that the DNC cooperated with the FBI’s requests, which resulted in the DNC providing a copy of their server
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River said:
So it's your position that James Comey lied under oath when he said they did not receive the DNC server. Got it.
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I didn't say that, and I have no idea how you inferred that from my posts. If you have an argument that you want to make, could you please make it?

River said:
It might also be noted, I voted for Obama back in his terms. I'm not a "right winger". I do however value the truth.
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I didn't say you were a right-winger. I said you were ignoring evidence.
 
River said:
The only source for that claim (russia hacked the emails) is those opposition (dnc) funded reports. Assange says different.
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Can anyone explain to me why Assange's word on who did the hacking should be given any legitimacy?

Consider: Assange is merely a messenger boy. Assuming Russia did the hacking, how would Assange know whether or not the hacked emails were delivered to him by a third party separate from the Russian hackers?
 
River said:
Are you aware that the transfer speeds on the files that were "hacked" is pretty well regarded as not possible overseas? Many IT and former officials have weighed in on that opinion. You're also disregarding the statement from Assange.

Where these investigations lead should be interesting. Both sides cannot be telling the truth. Crowdstrike and Fusiongps reports were both DNC funded.

Here is one of those opinions about the speed of transfer.
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Youtube. No thanks. Your facts are starkly from the realm of conspiratorial, steaming ********.

By the way, so this doesn't become one of those whack-a-mole drills... In response to the challenges to the citation that failed to support your claim, are you prepared to retract?
 
River said:
So it's your position that James Comey lied under oath when he said they did not receive the DNC server. Got it.
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Now that it's been explained that the FBI obtained a copy of the server, a teaching moment is at hand. Do you now realize you've been duped by propagandists?

I assume you're aware that the FBI Director, CIA Director, National Security Adviser, Sec of Homeland Security, and Director of National Intelligence -- all Trump appointees -- acknowledge that Russia hacked the emails, without qualification. Maybe you should send them your youtube link.
 
varwoche said:
Now that it's been explained that the FBI obtained a copy of the server, a teaching moment is at hand. Do you now realize you've been duped by propagandists?

I assume you're aware that the FBI Director, CIA Director, National Security Adviser, Sec of Homeland Security, and Director of National Intelligence -- all Trump appointees -- acknowledge that Russia hacked the emails, without qualification. Maybe you should send them your youtube link.
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Lets be clear here. Is it your stance that the fbi received a copy of the server and was able to authenticate or verify crowdstrikes and fusiongps reports? If so, lets see the reports made by the FBI authenticating that.

If you're trying to say that the FBI received a copy of the server, but Comey did not know it, be clear on that also. If you're saying they received it and did nothing, say that as well.

Comey says exactly this. (link to video)


It's my position that Comey stated under oath they did not receive the DNC servers.
 
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