Cont: Mueller Investigation pt3

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The Big Dog said:
Amazeballs! A Rule of So and a tu quoque fallacy and a full serving of ridiculously ironic patronizing.Oh mercy, that was almost a Grand Salami!

Any comment about the article I linked or the Grand Jury investigation of McCabe?
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Is there is name for the "deliberately avoiding the question" fallacy?
 
varwoche said:
Nope.

A distinct advantage to posting the precise words that support one's argument, rather than just a link, helps prevent this sort of mistake.
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Cabbage said:
You should probably read articles before posting them:
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One of the few pleasures of dealing with Trump sycophants on this forum is watching them post a link in support of one of their fetid arguments, only to find that the link doesn't support their argument at all.
 
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The Big Dog said:
So, nothing about the grand jury investigation of McCabe?

Huh, bummer
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The Big Dog don't get it, do he?

In TBD Universe (a distant cousin to the DC Universe that brought you The Green Lantern.... just sayin') the enemy of my friend is my enemy and vice versa. This makes it particularly difficult when loyal minions like The Fixer and Paulie Ukraine decide to drop a dime and seek out the Witness Protection Program. After spending a full year lauding them as noble heroes, they have to turn on them.

Like most of the TEADS (Trump Enablers Apologists Distracters and Supporters) the assumption is that everyone is as amoral as they are and would sell their mama's combat boots to protect Dear Leader.

Dawg, we haven't adopted Comey. He's every bit as hated as he was when he handed Trump the election. It's just that he's less hated than Trump. Let the grand jury and any investigative units have at 'im! Bring down the FBI, the NSA, the CIA. Trump's doing our work for us!

May I suggest some background reading, The Collected Works of Br'er Rabbit.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
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If Hillary had won, making the Steele/Fusion GPS/DNC connection investigation a priority would have made sense.....
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On what grounds? :rolleyes:

Granted you appear to be in agreement.

How is it that hard for some people in this thread and elsewhere to understand the difference between investigating one's opponent using an ex-British spy; and, loving the fact a foreign government actor is offering stolen information on one's opponent?
 
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Cabbage said:
You should probably read articles before posting them:



Note that this is mutually exclusive with the claim, “no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.”
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Someone must be lying right, either nunes or mccabe, take your pick. Note that there are other witnesses to the fact mccabe made the statement in a closed door hearing. Who was present at the hearing? Ask those entities. Has mccabe been honest to the press? Has comey? Has clinton? (or trump for that matter?)

I also find it humorous that many democrats seem to feel like "the russians" influenced the outcome of the election. Or that votes/vote counts were somehow altered or changed.
 
smartcooky said:
One of the few pleasures of dealing with Trump sycophants on this forum is watching them post a link in support of one of their fetid arguments, only to find that the link doesn't support their argument at all.
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It has a reference to the statement being made by nunes. Others have said the same thing. The fact mccabe publicly denies this is not surprising to me, is it to you?
 
Just to state for the record -- my opinion is wait and see what the investigations show. I'm a little bit critical of seeing opposition research accepted by FBI or other government agencies as official intelligence or official evidence. For instance, the DNC server which was alleged to have been "hacked" by the russians according to crowdstrike and fusiongps. The DNC refused to hand over the server to FBI or other agencies for authentication or verification of those reports.

Apparently the FBI chose to accept the reports as genuine without independently verifying anything. Comey is on video admitting they accepted the report and had not received the server physically.

So for me... there is still a lot left up in the air about all of this. I'm curious to see how it plays out. From the outside looking in, it would appear bad for Trump, but I'm not so sure that is the case as more comes to light about this. In the end, we may be looking at something a lot larger than watergate.
 
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River said:
Can you please describe how you feel it was, as in by what means? (election fraud? votes counts changed? fake votes placed, or write in your theory and any support for it)
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Russia hacked the infamous emails, and published them (via their stooge) in such a way as to cause maximum damage to Clinton.

There is no doubt this influenced the election. We'll never know the extent. It was a close election.
 
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smartcooky said:
One of the few pleasures of dealing with Trump sycophants on this forum is watching them post a link in support of one of their fetid arguments, only to find that the link doesn't support their argument at all.
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It's almost like a deliberate strategy.
 
Aber said:
Nope

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/03/dnc-lone-hacker-guccifer-2-0-pegged-as-russian-spy-after-opsec-fail/
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Are you aware that the transfer speeds on the files that were "hacked" is pretty well regarded as not possible overseas? Many IT and former officials have weighed in on that opinion. You're also disregarding the statement from Assange.

Where these investigations lead should be interesting. Both sides cannot be telling the truth. Crowdstrike and Fusiongps reports were both DNC funded.

Here is one of those opinions about the speed of transfer.
 
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